Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-03-01 10:53:36 UTC  

This contradicts the idea of angels marrying women.

2019-03-01 10:54:02 UTC  

And Enoch is still declared Scripture by the Church created by Christ

2019-03-01 10:54:24 UTC  

Wow, sounds like a mess.

2019-03-01 10:54:33 UTC  

Doesn't seem like a mess to me

2019-03-01 10:54:49 UTC  

Do you really think that a book can't be scripture if you consider it to contradict whatever?

2019-03-01 10:54:52 UTC  

How do you deal with that apparent contradiction?

2019-03-01 10:55:37 UTC  

I think Enoch is absurd, yeah. It contradicts scripture. Jasher gives us a better explanation, and is cited as historical throughout the bible.

2019-03-01 10:56:11 UTC  

The label of Scripture marks something as divinely inspired, with a grasp of something divine

2019-03-01 10:56:22 UTC  

That is, divine intervention in some way, I would say

2019-03-01 10:59:01 UTC  

Now if you want to study the canon

2019-03-01 10:59:12 UTC  

Study the councils where they were declared canonical!

2019-03-01 10:59:15 UTC  

Well, I'll have to see what the more educated dudes have to say about that passage in Luke. GG

2019-03-01 10:59:59 UTC  

It doesn't apply only to Enoch, but to many books where some say "this is part of the canon" or "this is not". I follow the catholic canon.

2019-03-01 11:03:03 UTC  

Now anyone can dismiss the luke parable with a quick excuse

2019-03-01 11:03:30 UTC  

But it is up to you to determine if the excuses are consistent

2019-03-01 11:03:39 UTC  

And sound

2019-03-01 11:05:24 UTC  

It helps when you read the earliest christians and they all agree on something

2019-03-01 11:52:33 UTC  

Thought you guys might like this:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/551008876384747531/D0co-OtU0AA7yjo.png

2019-03-01 11:52:36 UTC  

St Maximus the Confessor

2019-03-01 11:52:47 UTC  

RE: gender identity disorder/body dysmorphia

2019-03-01 11:54:38 UTC  

*RE: psychosis

2019-03-01 11:54:39 UTC  

fixed

2019-03-01 12:47:51 UTC  

@-EE- BaltBerg Its called the energy essence distinction

2019-03-01 12:48:12 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ Also, he's a saintt in the Catholic church as well. Would watch your mouth, blasphamiing papist.

2019-03-01 12:51:26 UTC  

Dude, I just mentioned how "gender identity disorder/body dysmorphia" are just psychosis

2019-03-01 12:51:52 UTC  

In relation to St. Maximus the Confessor by the looks of it

2019-03-01 12:52:52 UTC  

??

2019-03-01 12:52:55 UTC  

He said "RE: gender identity disorder/body dysmorphia"

2019-03-01 12:52:58 UTC  

And I simplified it

2019-03-01 13:15:01 UTC  

@Deleted User Dude, the Book of Enoch is non-canonical. It's never been in the Bible, Catholic or otherwise. It's no more infallible than the Gospel of Mary.

2019-03-01 13:22:00 UTC  

Yes it has actually

2019-03-01 13:22:10 UTC  

The Ethiopian miaphysites use it in their Bible

2019-03-01 14:22:21 UTC  

The BoE isn't Canonical, but everyone should read it as it's interesting.

2019-03-01 14:24:20 UTC  

Also @Byzas enoch

>Ethiopians

2019-03-01 14:25:06 UTC  

I was just pointing out that a church claiming to be Christian somewhere has the book in the canon

2019-03-01 14:25:34 UTC  

The book was historically used by orthodox Christians at some point too but it got thrown out because people like St Augustine didn't like it

2019-03-01 16:23:30 UTC  

@Deleted User gotta be honest the stuff you're saying isn't even correct for Calvinism

2019-03-01 16:23:54 UTC  

"everybody is given grace"

2019-03-01 16:24:28 UTC  

What then is limited atonement? How about double-predestination?

2019-03-01 16:25:06 UTC  

And if grace is irresistible and everyone is given grace, then you'd have to be a universalist (IE *everyone* in the world is saved)

2019-03-01 16:25:32 UTC  

This presents obvious issues