They were barbaric, you can read Muhammed's biographies and the witnesses

@Mozalbete ⳩ Not really though. Their wars against Pagans were mostly in self defense, similar to the Northern Crusade.

It wasn't, which is why it spread

@Uncle Zoob The Northern Crusades were a good thing because heathens were being killed

It was. Pagans threw stones at him for preaching Islam

@Deleted User can you stop annoying me with that bs

Or why muhammad commands the murder of unbelievers after the sacred months, when defense was allowed in the sacred months

Muhammed preached "peace and tolerance" while he was outnumbered

Those are in context of wars taking place in Arabia

They aren't

Why do you lie?

They are

Lol

I can go and get a mllion exmaples. Again, that is how Islam spread

It didn't spread through any convincing argument, opr theology, or miracles

It did by both war and preaching

They slaughtered their way through arabia

It did in a lot of places

They didn't haveanything to preach

For example, the qurayza

Or the really old poets murdered by muhammed for mocking him

There are even writtings warning people to not to write against Muhammed

You're completley wrong here but ok
Islam in several places solely through preaching as well

Oh yes?

And what did they preach?

Yeah, that part is true

the nonexistent miracles of Muhammed?

The noexistent prophecies?

They preached that people would get virgings and rivers of honey through jihad, the greatest of virtues

Sufi saints themselves are responsbile for 'miracles' which is just mysticism and sinful

False

It is true. Again, there are milion of examples in Muhammed's biographies and hadith, and the quran, and his life overall

He was a filthy monster, as many Christians witnessed

He was no saint btw, don't get me wrong

It is no surprise that his followers also fought endless wars against each other

Gotta go. When I return I am going to make a good collection of events from Muhammed biorgaphy, hadith and quran so that you desperately try to look for magical "contexts" that justify them

And fail

Yeah sure

The Northern Crusades did nothing wrong

Heathen lives don't matter to us

I just see Islam as another false religion but muh barbaric violent religion argument seems to be really baseless, if you just go by the Quran alone. In hadiths, well that case is pretty complicated but I am sure a lot of them are true.