Message from @Daniil

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2019-05-18 19:30:45 UTC  

Have not heard of them

2019-05-18 19:30:53 UTC  

Maybe you’ve got the name wrong

2019-05-18 19:32:01 UTC  

@Deleted User By Apsus tribes I mean folks currently living in Abkhazia

2019-05-18 19:32:09 UTC  

Oh okay

2019-05-18 19:32:37 UTC  

Yeah some Abkhazians have Cossack DNA, Cossacks even fought for Abkhazia in 90s

2019-05-18 19:33:25 UTC  

Yeah, Russia did a pretty good job weaponizing separatists

2019-05-18 19:34:38 UTC  

And the whole 90s thing is why plenty of Georgians have a distaste towards cossacks. According to some stories cossacks along with abkhazians would cut heads off Georgians and play with them like a soccer ball

2019-05-18 19:34:57 UTC  

Bruh

2019-05-18 19:35:08 UTC  

It's a painful memory. 250 000 Georgians lost their homes

2019-05-18 19:35:33 UTC  

10 000 changed their family names to stay in the region

2019-05-18 19:36:03 UTC  

Kekus

2019-05-18 19:36:30 UTC  

One of my relatives had home in Gagra

2019-05-18 19:36:37 UTC  

I think I know the origins of that story but it is different from what everyone thinks

2019-05-18 19:37:27 UTC  

Because Cossacks were teaming up with Chechens at the time, I think we know who got confused with who when it came to playing football with a Georgian’s head

2019-05-18 19:38:00 UTC  

Yeah, 90s was a clusterfuck

2019-05-18 19:38:06 UTC  

And a big one

2019-05-18 19:38:45 UTC  

Irregular troops from the north Caucasus played an important role in the conflicts that saw both Georgia's breakaway regions, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, secede in the early 1990s. In Abkhazia, Cossack and Chechen units fought side by side against Georgian troops, despite being historical enemies.

2019-05-18 19:39:30 UTC  

Why did you guys unite really?

2019-05-18 19:39:40 UTC  

Caucuses are usually a cluster fuck of historical land, because historically Abkhazia belonged to Russian Empire but later it belonged to Georgia

2019-05-18 19:39:46 UTC  

Well

2019-05-18 19:40:16 UTC  

bruh moment = rascrappin?

2019-05-18 19:40:22 UTC  

I thought Abkhazia was 100% under Georgian rule

2019-05-18 19:40:26 UTC  

Idk actually

2019-05-18 19:40:29 UTC  

before the Russians

2019-05-18 19:40:42 UTC  

@Daniil hahaha nah Rasputin is still banned

2019-05-18 19:41:04 UTC  

Nigger are you the same person or not

2019-05-18 19:41:51 UTC  

Well, nah. Abkhazia coming from the first Proto-Georgian kingdom Kolcheti, it was always inhabited by Abkhazians aka native Georgians. The Apsus nomad tribes only settled here in the 17th century. And the only time abkahzia was Russia was when entirity of Western Georgia got annexed by Russia Empire

2019-05-18 19:42:19 UTC  

“In the beginning of the 19th century, while the Russians and Ottomans were vying for control of the region, the rulers of Abkhazia shifted back and forth across the religious divide.[citation needed] The first attempt to enter into relations with Russia was made by Keilash Bey in 1803, shortly after the incorporation of eastern Georgia into the expanding Tsarist empire (1801). However, the pro-Ottoman orientation prevailed for a short time after his assassination by his son Aslan-Bey on 2 May 1808.[36] On 2 July 1810, the Russian Marines stormed Sukhum-Kale and had Aslan-Bey replaced with his rival brother, Sefer-Bey (1810–1821), who had converted to Christianity and assumed the name of George. Abkhazia joined the Russian Empire as an autonomous principality, in 1810.[4] However, George's rule, as well as that of his successors, was limited to the neighbourhood of Sukhum-Kale and the Bzyb area.[citation needed] The next Russo-Turkish war strongly enhanced the Russian positions, leading to a further split in the Abkhaz elite, mainly along religious divisions. During the Crimean War (1853–1856), Russian forces had to evacuate Abkhazia and Prince Michael (1822–1864) seemingly switched to the Ottomans.[citation needed]”

2019-05-18 19:42:21 UTC  

Even in the 90s Apsus were only 30% of the whole population

2019-05-18 19:42:29 UTC  

@Daniil no we are not

2019-05-18 19:42:37 UTC  

ok

2019-05-18 19:43:29 UTC  

“Later on, the Russian presence strengthened and the highlanders of Western Caucasia were finally subjugated by Russia in 1864.[citation needed] The autonomy of Abkhazia, which had functioned as a pro-Russian "buffer zone" in this troublesome region, was no longer needed by the Tsarist government and the rule of the Shervashidze came to an end; in November 1864, Prince Michael was forced to renounce his rights and resettle in Voronezh.[citation needed] Later that same year, Abkhazia was incorporated into the Russian Empire as a special military province[4] of Sukhum-Kale which was transformed, in 1883, into an okrug as part of the Kutais Guberniya. Large numbers of Muslim Abkhazians, said to have constituted as much as 40% of the Abkhazian population, emigrated to the Ottoman Empire between 1864 and 1878 with other Muslim population of Caucasus, a process known as Muhajirism.”

2019-05-18 19:43:38 UTC  

@Deleted UserAbkhazia wasn't really independent at that time period. It was like a self governing province under Georgian rule

2019-05-18 19:43:59 UTC  

Yeah I know

2019-05-18 19:44:14 UTC  

Hello there

2019-05-18 19:44:20 UTC  

Greetings

2019-05-18 19:44:36 UTC  

Sort of like Transnistria

2019-05-18 19:44:51 UTC  

And ironically Cossacks also fought for Transnistria

2019-05-18 19:45:37 UTC  

you guys really like fighting here and there

2019-05-18 19:45:51 UTC  

Yep

2019-05-18 19:46:20 UTC  

Well, Ingushia currently needs some help. You guys can back them up