Message from @willy

Discord ID: 594717459139788810


2019-06-30 02:15:16 UTC  

You or @vhozonian?

2019-06-30 02:17:00 UTC  

He's talking about me.

2019-06-30 02:17:34 UTC  

Ah, bother.

2019-06-30 02:17:39 UTC  

Well, I shall pray for you.

2019-06-30 02:18:06 UTC  

Thanks, I guess.

2019-06-30 02:21:40 UTC  

I'm agnostic, but I still defend Catholic Christianity, despise degenerancy and barbaric/superstitious religions.

2019-06-30 02:21:53 UTC  

Agnostic theist?

2019-06-30 02:23:29 UTC  

I thought most theists were agnostic?

2019-06-30 02:24:19 UTC  

Unless they absolutely know God exist.

2019-06-30 02:24:59 UTC  

Faith is the evidence of things not seen

2019-06-30 02:27:41 UTC  

So agnostic then?

2019-06-30 02:28:32 UTC  

Or should the theist be convinced rather than have the knowledge?

2019-06-30 02:28:53 UTC  

What do you mean by that?

2019-06-30 02:33:27 UTC  

hey guys I haven't really chatted in the server for a while but these past two weeks have been insane. My sister (now claiming to be a man) came out as transgender over the phone after my mom accidentally got a text from my sister's partner (who is also transgender) saying to my sister: "Did Planned Parenthood get back to you yet?"... my mom called my sister the morning after asking what that text was about and she came out as trans to my mom over the phone like making a big deal out of it and stuff. She was going to get male hormones from a government clinic. My mom was crying and my dad just looked so disappointed. She is their only daughter. I don't even know what to think anymore. my brother and I are just so sad honestly

2019-06-30 02:33:51 UTC  

sorry to interrupt the conversation btw

2019-06-30 02:33:55 UTC  

There is no knowledge but scripture, what seperates the man of faith from the agnostic is finding adequacy in that and God

2019-06-30 02:34:01 UTC  

Also damn

2019-06-30 02:34:10 UTC  

Yeah that's messed up

2019-06-30 02:34:13 UTC  

Yeah I really dont know what to add except damn

2019-06-30 02:34:38 UTC  

Sometimes I worry for my brother's future

2019-06-30 02:34:51 UTC  

He is still young and can be manipulated by these people

2019-06-30 02:35:10 UTC  

my sister was indoctrinated at a private university honestly

2019-06-30 02:35:17 UTC  

Gosh I don't even know what to do

2019-06-30 02:35:31 UTC  

like for future family holidays i dont even know if they are going to be allowed at the house

2019-06-30 02:35:31 UTC  

If it's at that point I dont know what else you can do

2019-06-30 02:36:18 UTC  

Yes, did she suffer abuse as a child? Any history of mental illness?

2019-06-30 02:36:20 UTC  

Yeah, higher education is cancer

2019-06-30 02:36:36 UTC  

no my parents gave everything to her and i think that was part of the problem

2019-06-30 02:36:50 UTC  

Oh a spoiled child then.

2019-06-30 02:36:56 UTC  

yeah honestly

2019-06-30 02:37:09 UTC  

You don't even need abuse or a history of mental illness for them to infect you, anything less than a robust moral upbringing makes you vulnerable, and even then nothing is foolproof at that stage

2019-06-30 02:37:42 UTC  

When you have an institution of PHDs telling you something, it's easy to believe it, no matter how wrong

2019-06-30 02:37:43 UTC  

it's just honestly the fact that we had unregulated internet, i know she would look at degenerate stuff when she was younger. She is 6 years older than me

2019-06-30 02:37:54 UTC  

she was gay before the trans thing

2019-06-30 02:38:10 UTC  

and she married quite young to her first partner and i dont know it is just such a messed up situation

2019-06-30 02:38:29 UTC  

they are just straight up LGBTQ+ liberals, valiant atheists

2019-06-30 02:38:33 UTC  

These are fucked up times we live in

2019-06-30 02:40:05 UTC  

indeed I love her, I do pray for her but it is frustrated because, the entirety of my childhood I have been at odds with her.. and that is part of the reason why I am certainly Catholic.. having to develop arguments against atheism among other things at such a young age stirred my heart toward tradition i dont know

2019-06-30 02:41:53 UTC  

Don't know what else to say.

2019-06-30 02:42:37 UTC  

there is somewhat of an uncertain future for my family because like i said I don't know if my sister and her partner will be allowed at the house anymore idk. My parents seem to be fed up with them and their lack of focus/ambition for the time being. I am just now going into college and I don't think I'm going to have much of a relationship with them any more, it really hurts me to think about that though.

2019-06-30 02:43:09 UTC  

sorry for laying this stuff in <#435520935647248414> idk but there are very few people i know that would understand how i'm feeling about all of this and y'all are genuinely Christian