@Mozalbete ⳩ are you saying that... people make mistakes? 😮

or maybe earlier christians had a different undertsanding of things

Maybe I can give you quotes by Augustine, Jerome, John Chrysostom and Justin Martyr in which they say, and explain how even if a person separates it is not legitimate to remarry

But you, earlier, even contradicted any other that understands the scripture as somehow allowing men to disolve marriage, since you said that pretty much any abuse is a cause for separation, and that any separation enables remarriage

Augustine flopped around

```4. Divorce and remarriage allowed.
a. For husband while adulterous wife lives: St. Basil, St. Epiphanius of Salamis, St. Augustine (at first said otherwise but changed his mind and then reverted back to first opinion), Tertullian, Ambrosiaster, St. Theodore of Canterbury, Council of Trullo, Council of Vannes 465, Council of Rome in 826.
b. For either innocent husband or wife in case of an adulterous spouse or other offense: Epiphanius of Salamis, ”Exceptions” of Egbert, Patriarch Alexis of Constantinople (addresses only the case of the woman).
c. For adulterous spouse after period of penance: St. Theodore of Canterbury.
d. Because marriage can be dissolved by adultery (insinuating remarriage could occur as the first one no longer exists): St. Cyril of Alexandria, St. Asterius of Amasea, St. Theodore of Canterbury, Lactanius, Hilary of Poitier.
e. After other spouse takes monastic vows: St. Theodore of Canterbury, Council of Compiegne,
f. For husband allowed while first wife lives due to first wife’s health: Pope Gregory II.
g. For husband if wife tries to kill him: Council of Verberie
h. For husband if stranded in a foreign land for good: Council of Verberie
```

I mean, your religion always has to rely on the defense of the pope being retarded, not his office.
My variant avoids this altogether by not giving the leaders that level of retard power

Your very document says he ultimately says that there is no remarriage allowed lmao

he flopped around is what i said

and i also gave you a list of councils and saints who affirm remarriage

John Chrysostom: Every one that puts away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, makes her an adulteress: and whosoever shall marry her when she is put away, commits adultery.

Justin Martyr: nd, Whosoever shall marry her that is divorced from another husband, commits adultery.

Jerome: A husband may be an adulterer or a sodomite, he may be stained with every crime and may have been left by his wife because of his sins; yet he is still her husband and, so long as he lives, she may not marry another. The apostle does not promulgate this decree on his own authority but on that of Christ who speaks in him. For he has followed the words of Christ in the gospel: whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced, commits adultery

"The shepherd": And I said to him, What then, sir, is the husband to do, if his wife continue in her vicious practices? And he said, The husband should put her away, and remain by himself. But if he put his wife away and marry another, he also commits adultery. And I said to him, What if the woman put away should repent, and wish to return to her husband: shall she not be taken back by her husband? And he said to me, Assuredly

This, against someone who moments ago pretty much defended divorce and remarriage under any circumstance

You said

That is two people separate it is cruel that they can't remarry

While Paul, for example, says that if someone separates, that person must not remoarry, but reconcile

thats not what i said lmao

Hold up hold up

Let us see what you said

So you can't get an Annulment for adultery?

so council of rome in 826 was wrong then

unless spousal abuse, the kind that threatens the life of mother and children, is punishable by death, its cruel to not allow women to leave
and if women are allowed to leave, its cruel to not allow them to remarry in a context where the provider is a man

yeah. youre sentencing them to a hungry or otherwise death

Lmao, now people can divorce and remarry according to how convenient it is for them to get food

Do you really expect people to take you seriously?

You spit on even the most basic of Scripture, because "what if she hungry!"

do you really expect people to tske you seriously when i give you a fucking wall of source which include the council of rome and you just ignore it

youre an actual retard

I give you the saints, and regarding councils, we have ecumenical councils that you mentioned yourself

bruh moment

We also have the common sense of reading Scripture, while you have some cheap garbage you took from some blog

keep cool Christians

>autistic interpretations of autistically translated scripture
no thanks

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Dude, again

You just said that you can just divorce and remarry if you are hungry

Nobody cares about what you consider autistic

my point was that there was no unanimous consensus on the issue of divorce and remarriage