Message from @pinkfloydfan123

Discord ID: 653699964555231286


2019-12-09 20:47:07 UTC  

Well, okay, they rejected self-evident logical axioms

2019-12-09 20:47:18 UTC  

I'm just trying to understand

2019-12-09 20:47:28 UTC  

Basically they said that you can't know any axiom for sure, but for some reason, despite that, they were all empiricists

2019-12-09 20:47:53 UTC  

Empiricism (logical empiricism or positivism) is the set of ideas that everything has a logical and physical explanation

2019-12-09 20:47:57 UTC  

Oh just looked it up

2019-12-09 20:48:05 UTC  

Ok but not everything does

2019-12-09 20:48:09 UTC  

I tried to point out how saying if you can't know any axiom for sure, then it doesn't make any sense at all to jump to empiricism.

2019-12-09 20:48:20 UTC  

@MawLr No empiricism has to do with 'physical' evidence

2019-12-09 20:48:28 UTC  

If that's the case how do you explain why there is evil in the world?

2019-12-09 20:48:31 UTC  

Things you can see touch taste, ect.

2019-12-09 20:48:34 UTC  

Where did evil come from?

2019-12-09 20:48:46 UTC  

Yeah, physical explanations

2019-12-09 20:49:00 UTC  

My point is that the reject logical axioms as absolute, but then they jump straight to relying on physical evidence for everything

2019-12-09 20:49:19 UTC  

Which is self contradictory

2019-12-09 20:49:23 UTC  

Yeah I know

2019-12-09 20:49:47 UTC  

A couple weeks ago I was involved in a head on collission

2019-12-09 20:49:50 UTC  

I kept trying to point that out to them but they kept having hissyfits or trying to somehow say that they can define axioms through observing empirical evidence.

2019-12-09 20:49:55 UTC  

Which of course, doesn't make any sense

2019-12-09 20:49:55 UTC  

My car was completely destroyed

2019-12-09 20:50:01 UTC  

But nobody was hurt

2019-12-09 20:50:16 UTC  

How do you explain that without the interference of God?

2019-12-09 20:52:40 UTC  

I get that we are talking about how most things can be explain through physical evidence but I'm just giving an example of how not everything can

2019-12-09 20:53:32 UTC  

I wouldn’t use that example to debate, these individuals would only answer the following:
> studies must be conducted and we’ll end up seeing that the vectors of the ...

2019-12-09 20:54:00 UTC  

They really are frustrating to talk with

2019-12-09 20:54:24 UTC  

It’s all about muh science, until science is turned against them

2019-12-09 20:55:17 UTC  

It doesn't make any sense to base everything on physical evidence because interpreting physical evidence requires the use of logic, which isn't physical.

2019-12-09 21:00:37 UTC  

@Daniil tfw noodle man myself; maybe I should make hand-pulled noodles to begom not-noodle man

2019-12-09 21:01:49 UTC  

noodle man because you’re asian..?

2019-12-09 21:03:06 UTC  

no, my father is no noodle man, haha

2019-12-09 21:03:13 UTC  

he’s kind of fat now

2019-12-09 21:03:19 UTC  

chad turned fat

2019-12-09 21:03:22 UTC  

Is he a rice boy?

2019-12-09 21:04:10 UTC  

haha

2019-12-09 21:04:20 UTC  

no, he just likes candy too much

2019-12-09 21:04:35 UTC  

Candy man. Oof

2019-12-09 21:04:49 UTC  

which is not a problem if he plays futbol as he likes

2019-12-09 21:05:11 UTC  

but people suck and he can still beat them as an old man

2019-12-09 21:05:20 UTC  

so what’s an old man to do?

2019-12-09 21:58:32 UTC  

I am researching about Catholic Orders and I am getting more curious about the Dominicans as well as Opus Dei, anybody here who could tell me if they know them from experience?

2019-12-09 21:59:42 UTC  

Dominicans are a good bunch

2019-12-09 21:59:56 UTC  

What about Opus Dei