Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-12-21 13:50:44 UTC  

Rushing leads to epic games

2019-12-21 13:50:51 UTC  

And epic games are dank

2019-12-21 13:51:21 UTC  

Aesthetics can be the reason why something catches your eye, but aesthetics do not really create any trust in religios assertions

2019-12-21 13:55:32 UTC  

In most people they do

2019-12-21 13:56:06 UTC  

Beauty is not an element in itself, it is the harmony and unity between the other elements

2019-12-21 13:56:18 UTC  

People understand this even if subconsciously

2019-12-21 13:57:01 UTC  

Something which is aethetically pleasing carries with it deep implications about what it is and the kind of people who made it/use it

2019-12-21 14:21:25 UTC  

You are giving far too much importance to aesthetics

2019-12-21 14:21:40 UTC  

You can't determine what is true through aesthetics

2019-12-21 14:24:28 UTC  

People who determine what is true or not depending on whether they like some shapes or not as fools that don't really beleive in anything, and their beliefs will crumble the second you put them to the test

2019-12-21 14:24:37 UTC  

It is the profound that should influence the profane, not the other way around.

2019-12-21 14:24:50 UTC  

Which in this case would be divine Truth inspiring aesthetics.

2019-12-21 14:27:13 UTC  

I mean, we can be led through awe to the recognition of the involvement of a higher truth. But these LARPagans just say "lol RUNES n' VIKANGZ n' stuff"

2019-12-21 14:27:30 UTC  

I'm inclined to believe that you're now asking the Socratic question of "is that which is Holy loved by the Gods because it is holy, or is it Holy because it is loved by the Gods?"

2019-12-21 14:54:10 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ "OMG these chauntings are so good I wish I could chaunt like that" *becomes Catholic and starts LARPing*
Give me a better example

2019-12-21 14:57:19 UTC  

That is a fine example of fragile beliefs

2019-12-21 14:57:36 UTC  

glad you get it

2019-12-21 14:58:58 UTC  

But there are actual paganists who are serious about it

2019-12-21 14:59:02 UTC  

So what?

2019-12-21 14:59:05 UTC  

Lmao

2019-12-21 14:59:09 UTC  

Where are the pagan apologetics?

2019-12-21 14:59:11 UTC  

And the pagan debates?

2019-12-21 14:59:16 UTC  

And the pagan missionaries?

2019-12-21 14:59:39 UTC  

I don't know

2019-12-21 14:59:47 UTC  

Of course you don't, because there aren't any

2019-12-21 15:00:25 UTC  

You can see christians, or muslims, going to debates defending their beliefs, or being tortured for them, or doing their best to spread them worldwide as what they dentify as the truth

2019-12-21 15:00:37 UTC  

Becaus for exmaple, even is islam is false, people do take it seriously

2019-12-21 15:01:13 UTC  

The same can't be said of LARPagans, who just take their LARPing seriously, or many religions in Asia, which are just a cultural ornament

2019-12-21 15:02:19 UTC  

The most "serious" face of LARPaganism would be some edgy bearded manchild who just hates Christianity

2019-12-21 15:02:29 UTC  

Varg is a good example of this

2019-12-21 15:03:21 UTC  

Gotta go. Hoping others will keep mocking larpaganism. Later I will comment on the actual pagans of the past.

2019-12-21 15:03:26 UTC  

Well there was a think called christian reinterpretation that made many people by force accept christianity. Even in Russia, well known story.
Russian paganist writings were all burned by the time Vladimir accepted chritianity so now of course neo-paganists look ridiculous. I bet others have somehow simular situation.

2019-12-21 15:04:32 UTC  

Overlal, stop looking at religions as retarded cultural clubs

2019-12-21 15:07:01 UTC  

I don't, I just look at them as strategies for invading the world with your own ideas.

2019-12-21 15:08:32 UTC  

People do debate about their own religions but when debates go on discussing pros and cons of all religions and wich should stay it results in wars.

2019-12-21 15:58:58 UTC  

Another camp of neopagans is basically just anti-Christian environmentalists who seek spirituality in nature. That would be the druid or wicca side.

2019-12-21 15:59:09 UTC  

Still degenerate though

2019-12-21 16:02:46 UTC  

In their case, they have the aesthetic draw towards the beauty and wonder of nature. However, where we know the beauty of nature speaks to the truth of God, they blind themselves to that truth and make an idol of nature itself

2019-12-21 16:04:54 UTC  

On the other hand my friend says that christians are misguided and seek for a strong autority to guide them and they are in fear with the thought that nothing comes after death.
And that they also are afraid to take responsability for their actions so they talk about god's will.

2019-12-21 16:07:38 UTC  

So there is a way to see everybody as crazy.

2019-12-21 16:48:08 UTC  

@Зигφρид Christianity has better exponents and proponents; do the various neopaganisms?