Message from @Larbi

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2019-09-02 19:21:38 UTC  

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2019-09-02 19:21:43 UTC  

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2019-09-02 19:23:19 UTC  

Ive understand what clown world really means!

2019-09-02 19:23:28 UTC  

The meaning behind it is more of a rebellion against modern society!
That is filled with the new moral puritanism...Social Justice!
Recognizing the ridiculousness & retardartion of the modern world.
Especially the highly politically correct, modern world.
Yet simply sitting back on the sidelines, while pointing & enjoying a hearty laugh.

2019-09-02 19:24:00 UTC  

It's self-defeating

2019-09-02 19:24:33 UTC  

How is it exactly

2019-09-02 19:25:23 UTC  

Laughing takes away time and shifts the mind away from the capacity for change.

2019-09-02 19:26:44 UTC  

and it is we who has become the new puritans, we wish for the old world. The cultural liberalism that has been decayed. We must look forward for a new world a world that takes aspects of the mainstream and the counter-culture to reform into a new solution to this dialectic.

2019-09-02 19:28:38 UTC  

Wow! I didn't even notice that! Its almost like a rebellion against a puritanical society that wants you to conform without any sense of originality!

2019-09-02 19:30:38 UTC  

That doesn't mean our position is any better, else it wouldn't have decayed. The world hasn't gone mad, rather we have been left behind. Neoliberalism has taken hold to try to right the wrongs of the past and the reason this movement arose is because we believed that they were either wrong in doing so or doing so through wrong means. We must adapt and understand the failings of the SJW-types and the liberals.

2019-09-02 19:31:09 UTC  

In the end it's all a joke.

2019-09-02 19:31:18 UTC  

The real clown world is the fact that we're all clowns here

2019-09-02 19:31:26 UTC  

It's all social collectivism

2019-09-02 19:31:40 UTC  

No more than the clown laughing at another clowns trade

2019-09-02 19:36:50 UTC  

I disagree! were social individuals with our own thoughts, desire and fantasies and beliefs we hold that makes us different. Collectivism is a cancer that tells you what to believe feel, say etc. Yes were all clowns because we laugh of the absurdity of what the moralizers of todays world has brought us. Back then it was hawkish conservatism, flavorless family values and not enjoying the aspect of life that makes it worth while. Now its the SJW's, Trans-Trenders and Forced diversity over the veil of collectivism

2019-09-02 19:37:10 UTC  

Lol

2019-09-02 19:37:21 UTC  

You don't see that even liberalism was collectivism

2019-09-02 19:38:12 UTC  

And we aren't so different else why would we socially cluster. Is it not our differences in the most delicate of places that pushes us away? It organises us

2019-09-02 19:39:00 UTC  

Reject ideology as an end and reject collectivism as an end

2019-09-02 20:06:50 UTC  

Okay, donโ€™t have the time to read through it all, whatโ€™s up @Larbi ?
@Wes The Savage asked me of o had a response to you, not sure about what though?
Saw the map mentioned

2019-09-02 20:07:27 UTC  

I asked what distinguished the NAP from pneumaic ethics as pointed out

2019-09-02 20:07:55 UTC  

Nap can be derived from many places, doesnโ€™t make those places the same

2019-09-02 20:08:14 UTC  

Whatโ€™s your point exactly?
Iโ€™m confused?
This supposed to be something wrong with pneumaic ethics?

2019-09-02 20:08:31 UTC  

Why can't you simplify it.

2019-09-02 20:08:31 UTC  

Iโ€™m also tired so bear with me

2019-09-02 20:08:33 UTC  

๐Ÿ˜…

2019-09-02 20:08:42 UTC  

Who owns and controls you?

2019-09-02 20:08:53 UTC  

I can convincr anyone that they own and control themself

2019-09-02 20:08:55 UTC  

Simplify what?
ANC?

2019-09-02 20:09:04 UTC  

Fucking hell

2019-09-02 20:09:09 UTC  

Oh

2019-09-02 20:09:10 UTC  

And

2019-09-02 20:09:12 UTC  

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2019-09-02 20:09:17 UTC  

Fucking autocorrect

2019-09-02 20:09:19 UTC  

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2019-09-02 20:09:28 UTC  

I'm arguing the pneumaic ethics as pointed out seems to be the NAP and I remember you arguing that pneumaic ethics is backed up by property rights from first principles which is the same as the NAP derivation which is defined by most libertarians who aren't consequentialist

2019-09-02 20:09:37 UTC  

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2019-09-02 20:09:39 UTC  

Now Iโ€™m curious what the ANC my autocorrect wants to capitalize

2019-09-02 20:12:21 UTC  

Okay first, property rights from first principles has flaws, Iโ€™ve pointed them out, but, thatโ€™s where pneumaic ethics differs, itโ€™s not purely deontology, also, why should it matter that the nap comes from pneumaic ethics and property rights from first principles?
A burger can come from many places, doesnโ€™t say much about the origins.
Then Iโ€™d say, where the first principles angle has flaws, I clear that up more with the added and altered forms of things that are comparable to the prior

2019-09-02 20:13:14 UTC  

I just don't see where the distinguishing factors come in

2019-09-02 20:14:08 UTC  

One claims to have an absolute position on right and wrong