Message from @Jonathan The Shaman

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2019-08-31 03:37:28 UTC  

Anarchy is an absolute solution, I guess is what I'm trying to say

2019-08-31 03:37:31 UTC  

I think everyone here at the end of the day wants a solution and peace of some form

2019-08-31 03:37:32 UTC  

there is no left/right/center

2019-08-31 03:37:42 UTC  

there is only absence of coercion

2019-08-31 03:38:26 UTC  

using the term as a means to entice people to see truth is up to each person

2019-08-31 03:38:50 UTC  

but once they see and understand the truth, they will understand that there's no longer any need for political labels

2019-08-31 03:38:56 UTC  

There is voluntary means and involuntary means, never forget the difference, the lcu is alone in this, it all be like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611780143530246155/617201632815480832/image0.jpg

2019-08-31 03:39:01 UTC  

It should be like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611780143530246155/617201653648719872/image0.jpg

2019-08-31 03:39:30 UTC  

We’re all trying to arrive at a similar destination, arguing about the vehicle is preventing us from getting there

2019-08-31 03:39:36 UTC  

The first one is a good meme, the second one is what most peopl would refer to as utopian 😂

2019-08-31 03:39:40 UTC  

Well, a bit hard when we all have different values

2019-08-31 03:40:00 UTC  

not everyone is trying to arrive at a similar destination though, that's the problem

2019-08-31 03:40:13 UTC  

Well, besides a syndicalist, we have an advocate from each position

2019-08-31 03:40:25 UTC  

Not that utopian tbh, even if it looks that way

2019-08-31 03:40:27 UTC  

😩

2019-08-31 03:40:33 UTC  

Me and Jonathan have a similar destination, just a different route

2019-08-31 03:40:47 UTC  

every single one of those branches other than LCU, Anarchist and Voluntarist are trying to arrive at an authoritarian destination

2019-08-31 03:41:18 UTC  

there's only one route to absolute liberty

2019-08-31 03:41:27 UTC  

Doesn’t mean they don’t agree with the platform, and that means they have changed that direction

2019-08-31 03:41:29 UTC  

abolishment of authority and the belief in it

2019-08-31 03:41:45 UTC  

If people aren’t given the opportunity, how will they change, think about me

2019-08-31 03:41:47 UTC  

My route is independence from the democrat north

2019-08-31 03:41:55 UTC  

Was hard left police state in my youth

2019-08-31 03:42:33 UTC  

In my youth, the economy was shit and I lived a shitty little shack house next to a junk yard and bar

2019-08-31 03:42:42 UTC  

My route showing everyone how the ways of current governments are barbaric and how we don’t need to do it this way anymore

2019-08-31 03:42:57 UTC  

current governments, or *all* governments?

2019-08-31 03:43:17 UTC  

I know the answer to this lol

2019-08-31 03:43:26 UTC  

just honing your speaking 😉

2019-08-31 03:43:31 UTC  

Government is a hierarchy of order, management isn’t bad, involuntary governance is bad

2019-08-31 03:43:48 UTC  

And true, but not for all with those words

2019-08-31 03:44:39 UTC  

this is a common misconception many anarchists have

2019-08-31 03:44:55 UTC  

govern necessarily requires a state, or an authority

2019-08-31 03:44:58 UTC  

The language of the LCU is key to its success, so what if the words we use convince people to look at it open minded, and see how this gets what they wanted all along, even if the path is different then they foresaw

2019-08-31 03:45:11 UTC  

Authority being key

2019-08-31 03:45:16 UTC  

by definition, that's why I absolutely *never* use the word govern, or any of its derivatives

2019-08-31 03:45:51 UTC  

General manager is an authority high up on a business governance setup, states have given a bad name to governance

2019-08-31 03:46:23 UTC  

I can see that

2019-08-31 03:46:35 UTC  

but do not use, specifically, the word government

2019-08-31 03:47:09 UTC  

Blame involuntary governance, governance in itself isn’t bad, but neither is sex, when you force it though, both are bad

2019-08-31 03:50:24 UTC  

right, but why use the term at all

2019-08-31 03:54:09 UTC  

Because, I don’t want to have to design a new word to say what there is one for, govern, governing, governance, and then government has a bad name where the others are understood, that’s why, words have meaning, but most who feel that way use some wrong, use a umbrella term as a word with meaning, and take words like centrism and say it has meaning without two things to put it in between, or take it as inbetween two parties instead of not limiting yourself to one platform, instead individually looking at issues, like voluntarist tbh