Message from @Igmdigm

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2017-11-29 23:29:06 UTC  

how can you ignore the existence of Old Gods that can at any moment wake up and decimate the world? Or total cosmic horror?

2017-11-29 23:29:20 UTC  

Hurr not that impressive

2017-11-29 23:30:13 UTC  

but all these stories are about people explicitly being confronted by something that they can't even comprehend

2017-11-29 23:30:46 UTC  

if Cthulhu comes out of the ocean right in front of you you can't just "ignore it"

2017-11-29 23:30:54 UTC  

that's the point

2017-11-29 23:32:06 UTC  

>arguing Lovecraft with someone who has never read a book in his life

2017-11-29 23:32:11 UTC  

<:alithink:327930371796893698>

2017-11-29 23:32:49 UTC  

a lot of his stories have long passages of people trying to ignore or deal with the weird shit around them until it becomes too much

2017-11-29 23:33:13 UTC  

and I do think if you were confronted with a cosmic horror you wouldn't walk out the other end "dealing with it"

2017-11-29 23:33:20 UTC  

people can't deal with things that aren't cosmic horror

2017-11-29 23:33:25 UTC  

rape, assault etc

2017-11-29 23:34:02 UTC  

people get broken by something as simple as the end of a relationship

2017-11-29 23:34:16 UTC  

much less somehting from the depths of space emerging at you

2017-11-29 23:35:49 UTC  

but

2017-11-29 23:35:56 UTC  

in the fantasy world they do

2017-11-29 23:36:46 UTC  

I guarantee if something horrific makes itself known to the earth tomorrow morning people aren't just going to cope with that

2017-11-29 23:36:59 UTC  

I don't think that's them going insane. I think that's literally something so powerful and cryptic that it burns your eyes out to look at.

2017-11-29 23:37:04 UTC  

^

2017-11-29 23:37:13 UTC  

in Lovecraft people go insane typically

2017-11-29 23:37:48 UTC  

Like, I always thought the Lovecraftian gods always *generated* insanity rather than being greeted with it.

2017-11-29 23:37:58 UTC  

But I haven't ever really read Lovecraft so I could be wrong

2017-11-29 23:38:29 UTC  

Nah, he never really describes something like Cthulhu, he's cryptic because he wants it to be something unimaginably horrific

2017-11-29 23:38:36 UTC  

which no one can really illustrate

2017-11-29 23:38:57 UTC  

which is a cool idea because I think people would struggle with that in real life too

2017-11-29 23:39:37 UTC  

But why the fuck did they make an anime of it.

2017-11-29 23:39:44 UTC  

And worse yet, why is there no fuckable Chthulhu?

2017-11-29 23:39:50 UTC  

@cjharmer73 I think the point of the depiction is that, while in the real world yes probably people would cope, but that's the not point. The point is that it's SO VERY BAD, what you thought previously as the worst possible thing is not relevant anymore, because what ever is depicted is WORSE. That's the whole point, the notion that there's something that can turn up evil to 11.

2017-11-29 23:40:12 UTC  

anybody watched that film the Void?

2017-11-29 23:40:20 UTC  

from the guys who made the physical effects for the Thing prequel

2017-11-29 23:40:22 UTC  

p good

2017-11-29 23:41:14 UTC  

Bullshit

2017-11-29 23:41:20 UTC  

hah

2017-11-29 23:41:33 UTC  

we're probably rather tame

2017-11-29 23:41:52 UTC  

We have plenty of firepower. We just have a system that works more or less.

2017-11-29 23:42:23 UTC  

All we really have to do is coast it out until we're more advanced, then by that point our culture and mindshare is so coherent and positive that terrorism and corruption phases itself out along with scarcity.

2017-11-29 23:42:46 UTC  

That's the recipe for a type 1 civilization.

2017-11-29 23:43:19 UTC  

We already have weapons that would destroy 99% of livable area

2017-11-29 23:43:39 UTC  

You're kidding yourself if you think the nuclear threat is anything other than planetary.

2017-11-29 23:44:01 UTC  

We have missile defense systems but they couldn't handle it if the thousands to tens of thousands of warheads in existence were launched.

2017-11-29 23:45:01 UTC  

You realize the radioactive fallout from the sheer number of missiles launched would cake the Earth's atmosphere

2017-11-29 23:45:22 UTC  

We fucking do