and take like 10-20 yrs to pay

in switzerland house placement doesn't affect schooling at all

all schools are equal

technically speaking all schools are equal, but it's who ur surrounded by

if ur not surrounded by people who want to learn

chanecs are ur not gonna be an engineer

well, in Switzerland when you get your 'high school diploma' you can go to any uni without applying

even ETH

swiss life

great life

then again I went the path of going through an apprenticeship for 4 years after 9 years of school

and then studying to be an EE

and now 4 years part time for my BS

apprentiship in what?

electrical engineering as well

what?

yup

what do you learn

we have electrical engineering apprenticeships

kirchoff and basic circuits?

well yeh, and AC, capacitors, inductors etc

it's basically made to be 'pre-ee-bachelor-class'

80% of graduates go on to study ee at uni

so it's taking me 2 years longer than just general uni education, but at that point I've already worked in the field for 6 years

oh, and programming is also part of it

what kind of work?

technical drawing

etc

fuck drawing

bitch work

that was only halfa year

to know how to do it if we ever should need to do it

get gud at design

otherwise ur gonna be doing unfulfilling work

well, in my apprenticeship I was in a company that made cable car automation and steel cable testing devices

and now I'm working in a cryptology company

sekrit

u have clearance?

enjoy being on a database

I already am kek

yeah, sometimes i wonder if i should even care to anonymize myself