also

thats not true

the ones that can speak some english just manage the ones that dont

they get paid a bit more

but they all still tolerate shit conditions

it's also not that hard to learn enough english to work in a factory job

^^^^

people come to english speaking universities and do grad degrees

with poor english

i didnt know any spanish and could still work with them

it was just gay and annoying

so i quit after a little while

Dude. I'm talking about my aunt. She speaks English fluently

open borders doesn't work

ever

And was educated in Mexico City and in America

I'm not Hispanic myself

She married in

do you guys seriously believe given say some finite number of jobs, 100 million natives, 500 million foreigners that can cycle in and out

that native americans won't be pushed out?

If you can speak English fluently and you're educated, you don't like being treated like crap

do you seriously think every foreigner who moves won't bother to learn enough english to move some pallets around for $20/hr

Did I say that?

so then what's the point of open borders and a high minimum wage? it's a moot scenario

it makes no sense

you're making up a fantasy scenario where learning english is some unaimaginable feat

I am against open borders, big guy

I was arguing that all Hispanics aren't idiots who will work for $2 a pop

oh nevermind arguing against the wrong guy

apologies

It's fine

i don't think it will matter if there's a surplus of labour

whether you accept being treated like shit or not

@Geist no one but Kage thinks this

yeah it's like how dating is now, we can all squawk abotu how we won't date single moms and fatties, it doesn't make them disappear

if there's another guy wholl fuck em

That isn't what I think at all.

Surplus labor means that you'll take whatever job you can get

You need a job to get money to support your family.

More labor, charge less

I was talking about outside the hypothetical situation where borders were open, but I guess I was misunderstood because of what I was talking about