drinking is not degenerate

being a drunk is

^

Okay

Still never going to drink alcohol

and you should always exercise moderation in your drinking

and if you cant, dont drink

fuck for sure

Alcohol sucks

thats fine, but dont pretend its morally better

otherwise christ wouldnt drink

btfo

Drinking wine for sacrament is different

he didnt only drink wine for sacrament

And we don't even use wine at my church

he literally made wine for a party

I'm not here to debate that - we live in dire times - christ would have a hard time, with a human body, forgiving the trash that goes on today

drinking is how normies cope with social situations

And that's lame

Every teetotaler imagines himself to be a latent J. D. Rockefeller

even the average normie isnt entirely comfortable going out with strangers

That is a brass characterization of the situation

rarely do they measure up

Trump is a teetotaler though so I dont shit on people who are

Trump's bro died of alcoholism and that affected him

I also don't like cigarettes and drugs. I guess I'm the weirdo here

nah

abstaining totally is better than being an addict

Well you are, because a normal teetotaler would just avoid those who partake in the demon rum

I dont particularly like nicotine but as opposed to any other substance it doesnt' absolutely wreck my connection

Nicotine literally sparks brain synapses

It's the original nootropic

that wasn't my argument but that's fine

The smell of cigarettes gives me a headache

intoxicants disconnect us from god - but we live in a very derisive world - it is important to avoid losing sight of what will lead you to the true path rather than make the perfect the enemy of the good

And I don't drink alcohol because the stuff does stuff to your head..plus it probably wouldn't go together well with my meds

I don't mean to make that relativistic, but there's a lot more to god than commandments - the spirit will take you where you want to go more than the imperfect, human rules

yes it dulls the senses

im with kage, havent had booze in like 2 years

feels great