@Julian @Tervy funny, I was just going to complain about foam earbuds.

God they are terrible, and they hurt my ears too

But what the fuck should I use instead?

I have yet to try mine

silicone ones?

I need that isolation

triple flange boyyyy

Does silicone really isolate tho?

or double

Oh god no..

Those hurt my ears

But I guess silicone

Yeah normal silicone plugs flanged or not

@Tervy what kinda tips is he using?

those look like ety tips kinda

Ety tips? Hmm

Also are the kz zs6 worth it?

uuuh

yes and no

they measure like trash

Wha

theyre really uncomfortable

Measure?

I've got myself a pair of sony's

might be salvagable with eq, but the peaks would be shithouse because the BA is right in the fucking nozzle with no dampers

And I want to replace them

But eh, guess J shoukdn't.

Shouldn't*

What about zs3, 4 and 5?

Any noticeable difference?

yes

there is no zs4 tho

zs3 isnt even remotely the same

and zs5 measures like a zs6 with less treble rape, but they fucked it up because soulsik so now they should be mostly the same

But would the zs3 be a better buy or?

Because I really like that metallic casing

if you dont like treble, sure

zs3 isnt metal

I do like treble..