preferably closed then but its not a deal breaker

closed backs are outperformed by iems tho at almost all price points

ya sadly that too

cop carbo tenore :^)

well thats no good then whats the point

wdym

whats the point of spending money on closed over ears if you can just get iems that sound better

closed headphones are probably more comfortable than iems for some people

a lot of people dont like having silicone shoved in their earhole

true that, that's one of the main reasons im looking for a pair of over ears

also a lot of people immediately assume bigger = better, and iems shouldnt have as much spent on them as fullsize headphones

there isnt really a lot of good cheap closed backs tho unfortunately

CAL is above your pricerange too

Out of the hd668b and hd681 which one would you recommend?

681 is closer to neutral and is more comfy because it doesnt have the weird wing things

has less midbass tho

neither are comfy without a pad swap

What sort of pads?

sorry for the endless questions

k240 pads are the cheapest but you'll lose even more bass from an already rolled off headphone

the other option are some chinese pads for the audiotechnica art series

i have a pair on my a500x and they fit the superlux with some stretching

and theyre quite soft too

theyre not super cheap tho

hmmm trying to stick as budget as possible, I might cop the 681's and just deal with the pads for a while, they may fit my ears fine who knows

Ali the cheapest place to get them?

its not the fit

its the fact that the pads are stupid hard

and dont breathe at all

Oh that makes sense I know how that feels

you can get cheap k240 pads for like $3 anyway so you might as well just get those anyway

the cheapest place t oget the 681 is probably gearbest

righto, will do

check ebay for some used shit tho first

you can often find some weird stuff there

eg an a700x just sold for $48 because the 3.5 is a bit jank

@TCxUFATIME these are the pricier pads i was talking about https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Thick-Leatherette-Replacement-Cushion-Ear-Pad-For-AKG-K550-K551-K553-Headphones/122788200140

might be cheaper on ali idk

@HEKTIK thanks, I'll keep them in mind

those plus the 681 would actually be pretty sweet

681 are in autistic price atm