Message from @TailsFromTheIntellectualDarkWeb

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2019-03-24 01:07:39 UTC  

You got it👹👍

2019-03-24 01:08:31 UTC  

I did love that vid though... fukkin nimbys

2019-03-24 04:13:55 UTC  

Cleese was always a bit woke on political bullshit, Idle on the other hand believes the Russia narrative 😦

2019-03-24 04:17:34 UTC  

Are we using woke to mean identitarian left or as a synonym for red pilled?

2019-03-24 04:19:54 UTC  

red pilled

2019-03-24 04:20:04 UTC  

but I find red pilled more cringe than woke

2019-03-24 04:20:09 UTC  

Because I see woke and red pilled as antonyms to some degree

2019-03-24 04:20:32 UTC  

woke is used ironically though to essentially mean red pilled

2019-03-24 04:20:46 UTC  

an attempt to turn woke against the left

2019-03-24 04:20:51 UTC  

I find both pretty cringe, but I suppose it's more clear that I'm being ironic if I say woke

2019-03-24 04:24:43 UTC  

Also, can we reclaim the word reclaimed?

2019-03-24 04:25:05 UTC  

didn't realise it was lost

2019-03-24 04:26:53 UTC  

That's what the left says minorities are doing when they use words that no one else can say because they're insulting but they can because they're"reclaiming" them

2019-03-24 04:27:14 UTC  

Like black people calling each other nigga

2019-03-24 04:28:16 UTC  

it's not really used as a synonym it still means what it means

2019-03-24 04:30:03 UTC  

I also need a substitute word for problematic

2019-03-24 04:54:33 UTC  

I've always found that 'troublesome' doesn't sound nearly as douchey.

2019-03-24 06:32:01 UTC  

I just never use problematic, it's kind of a weasel word

2019-03-24 20:58:27 UTC  
2019-03-24 21:44:55 UTC  

Controversial Opinion: Violence isn't evil, or good. It's the context, and the reason it was done that makes it evil, or good.

2019-03-24 21:48:39 UTC  

I think violence does have some natural degree of evil tied to it, since the situations where violence would be considered good are those where others are violent for an evil reason. Therefore it's a lesser of 2 evils situation.

2019-03-24 22:04:58 UTC  

I think the usual libertarian argument is that the _initiation_ of violence is immoral. Is there a situation where being the first to act violently could be considered morally good?

2019-03-24 22:07:01 UTC  

Otherwise, to use violence to protect oneself from an aggressor is considered moral under that logic

2019-03-24 22:19:57 UTC  

@Railingo That's shouldn't be controversial... As most with most things its situational.

2019-03-24 22:21:16 UTC  

and even what I said just reinforces the idea that it's situational

2019-03-24 22:23:46 UTC  

is there a group that considers violence to be an inherently evil act? I'm not sure that Railingo's opinion is so controversial

2019-03-24 22:23:57 UTC  

I don't really like the libertarians view on violence. Because at some point they would have to use force as well (if it ever got big enough, which isn't likely).

2019-03-24 22:25:18 UTC  

@C1PHER Ya, many people do sadly. Lots of fools believe that no violence should ever be committed (even for good reasons).

2019-03-24 22:28:18 UTC  

I suppose you could argue that you can initiate violence in very special circumstances where you know the person you are violent against is about to be violent. Sort of a preemptive strike situation, which could definitely be abused, but I can't totally rule out as possible.

2019-03-24 22:29:00 UTC  

that works for me. the current legal system allows for that

2019-03-24 22:29:15 UTC  

the word imminent harm covers it

2019-03-24 22:36:42 UTC  

Yeah, libertarians are just wrong here

2019-03-24 22:38:01 UTC  

i dont think the libertarians are wrong. the nap can easily include this situation

2019-03-24 22:38:10 UTC  

^

2019-03-24 22:38:24 UTC  

our current legal system operates the same way

2019-03-24 22:39:01 UTC  

it is illegal to initiate force on someone, but it is legal to use force to prevent imminent bodily harm and/or death.

2019-03-24 22:39:17 UTC  

the key part is the word imminent