Message from @McFansy
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Vox Day can be very abrasive so it makes sense if Owen is taking advice from him. I watched Vox Day but heads with the comicsgate group. He did a lot of things that unnecessarily antagonized the comicsgate people when they otherwise would have been friendly with him.
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So Stephen is still willing to entertain unpopular opinions and people.
This Owen guy ¿isn't?
I wouldn't necessarily call AJ or Gavin unpopular
It seems like owen is drifting away from entertaining ideas he doesn't agree with.
Part of the process of isolating himself
Ok, that then.
I've been listening to Vox Day and Owen recently. It's more of an extreme distaste of who they think are liars. Vox Day thinks Jordan Peterson is a liar, and Owen
is now thinking that Crowder was a liar all along
Owen is a gullible brainlet that's all
and Vox has always come off as a confidence man to me
Crowder isn't the only person that owen has started to think is a liar. Its pretty much everyone who doesn't agree with him
Do you think live streaming a filmed episode makes Crowder a liar? He opened with that point, I thought that was funny. I had a strong feeling that was the case. Do I care? No
Do people not know that?
Vox doesn't have any of the charm to be a Con man
didn't say he was a good one
well is a swimmer who drowns still a swimmer?
Idk, apparently Owen defines himself as a true friend who keeps things secret such as non-live live shows lol
Like I always thought it was obvious it wasn't live just like late night shows on tv
Do people think late night shows on tv are live?
I still kinda like Owen, he seems more like a puppy than a person tho
and I have always had a kind of dislike for ben Shapiro since his days of subbing in for Michael Medved on the radio. He has always had a hall monitor way about him. And Vox Day makes fun of him so I guess I kinda like him
I think Owen can be very funny, I'm less interested in what he thinks are intellectual rants.
I always thought the bits he did for crowder were really good too.
I'm not as familiar with Vox Day, I do know he did something to mess with the nebula awards and made them show their hand as tilting the scales politically.
Some people aren’t meant to be thinkers.
he does morality rants - from what I've seen he doesn't do intellectual rants
that was Sad Puppies wasn't it Grant?
Some men have the arms of a thinker, skinny and frail. Some men have the arms of one who can think and build. Owen just has the arms of a builder
@Lord Zedd oh am I mixing him up with someone else?
Sad puppies was the "movement"
it was like a sister thing to Gamergate I think Vox was tied to that
the Hugo awards and the rabid puppies
sister of the sad puppies
it is funny to still see so many old Gamergate names pop up in discussions these days
I don't remember him in Gamergate. I only heard about him in reference to the science fiction book awards thing.
Then I saw him pop up again when comicsgate started gaining steam. He tried to trademark comicsgate so then he started butting heads with that group
he was on the sidelines, grifting
sounds about right
comicsgate is where I stepped off, their carpet bomb approach was retarded
The only times I've heard about Vox Day it's somehow related to not liking Jews or JBP and trying to sell books about it