Message from @Putz
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And the cost of medicare
While ignoring how medicare is going broke and its subsidized in the clinics by paying customers
Its a shell game, a doctor can provide medicare coverage at cost + small margin. Then the paying customers pay for all the administrative overhead
Ex. Paying customers pay for the receptionists, infrastructure, training, advertising, etc. Medicare pays for the actual visit cost doctor wages and supplies in the procedure
And there is no way a government ran insurance program doesn't turn into socialized medicine in the long run. Because the insirance provider will set operating standards and compensation guidelines
It basically turns into outsourcing of socielized medicine
It's almost as if leftists that advocate for high taxes don't actually expect to be the ones paying them.
Similarly how we subsidize drug costs for the rest of the world by paying the research costs and administrative overhead, meanwhile other countries only pay for the manufacturing cost of medicine
There will always be those who want things to be controled, regardless of costs
True. @Putz can you maybe link some sources about that stuff? Id like to read more about it
@grant
... It was seventh grade shit jokes.
Carlos is still the playground bully...
I sleep with brass knuckles on. I fucking dare that faggot to come after me.
Side note; If I didn't know about Blair's medical history, I wouldn't know.
Puts the savings to the country by switching to medicare for all at 2T over 10 years, that's an annual savings of $600 per person on healthcare
Alsp makes assumptions like a 40% decrease in appointment costs thanks to streamlining and a substabtial decrease in drug prices thanks to increased "negotiations"
The biggest sign of failure of this idealogy is that it hasn't been implemented at a state level. Which it could be but the states no its not a good idea unless they can bring down the rest of the ships with it
If its such a great savings, healthy people are more productive and all that, why doesn't california have medicare for all
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Why doesn't cali just do it
Set an example for middle America if it's so great
And it doesnt answer the question of who will be funding research and innovation
Another topic often skipped is that 77% of medicare users combine medicare with a supplement plan. So even if there was a medicare for all, almost everyone would still be paying for a private insurance to supplement it. Which is also what happens in Canada and the UKs "free healthcare" schemes
they "deserve more" fucking hell imagine the entitlement
noone deserves dick
¿Is anyone NOT mad at the little faggot at this point?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z596d65W0aU
Young Rippa. Who else learned about him through FreedomToons?
I love how they complain about how expensive our care is. Well, if it wasnt so god damn heavily regulated and companies weren't spending an averagr of 3 billion per drug due to regulation mayne just maybe it would be cheaper.
I also like how we are jist supposed to be okay with taxes to help the smaller amount of people without health insurance. Soooo I have to give even more money to help people who want other people to pay for it because reasons lol.
Why dont they just redesign a public health option that helps poor people and let insurance companies actually compete to lower prices for those that already can afford it
Its a telling story that i drive to Mexico for dental care, now how does a dentist in Mexico deliver the same services, with newer technology than i get in america
We already have a public health option for people
Ita the people that aren't truly poor but have other life priorities (and as more risk tolerant) that don't have coveragr
The fight is realky over an individuals right to take risk as it relates to their own life
I love the "medicare is the most popular" well UK plan is still really "popular" even after slews of cancelled surgeries and letting Alfie Evans just die instead of letting him travel elsewhere
Popular doesnt mean good.
Medicare is the most popular government program, they are comparing it to medicaid and the va
Ya lol
Pakman "its so dumb that people say America is too big for Single Payer, larger tax base more tax to fund" ummmm its also incredibly more expensive dummy
I live in a good va district, my fathrr lives in the next ba district and its a shit show, one of the big problems with va is no consistency
My buddy has been dealing with the VA for years. Suddenly cutting his benefits without notifying him lol
Its also very challenging to navigate, because they aren't marketing services. Basically you can get all the help you need if you know what and who to ask