Message from @Nucleon
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He will readily admit when he thinks he's been an idiot about something
Tim wouldn’t eat them enough
He might
Don't be canabiliphobic
Luckily, I don’t rely on celebs, I use deep archetypes👹
He just needs to stop being a closet libertarian and come out already :^)
Tim? He will do what he’s going to do.
Sargon
Fine by me, all the above, till we cross paths.
He will make the full libertarian argument and then magically backpedal when he is about to move into the region proper
I'd like to think that most of the political YTers I watch are acting in good faith
Meh. We see. As long as they don’t explicitly cross me, I’m ok.
Crossed
You don’t have to be with me, to not be against me, in my world. That’s an important thing
I think Sargon isn't doing it to be malicious
He's just doing a slow conversion
He’s ok. And cross. And I know why. I am too there
I’m one of those people who values life to be of less importance than legacy.
That’s dangerous
he's definitely been moving towards libertarian at a somewhat slow, but steady, pace. I remember him doing a political compass test a few years ago and being moderately left of center. He did one again a couple of months ago, and was just barely right of center. I think one of his biggest sticking points is universal healthcare.
Universal healthcare is good. No doubt. It’s the “too what level?” Which is the kicker
Ye
"Universal" "too what level" 🤔
I know you can say just for certain procedures, but I don't think any line you draw on that side will hold very well
it's a complicated issue
because like many things the left often pushes for, on its face, it's a great idea
but the issues lie in the details of it
I have a friend who has a pharmaceutical degree, and from what he's explained to me, essentially, if the US went in on universal healthcare, our medical research would collapse, which would have a domino effect on the rest of the western world (since extremely cheap healthcare works in Canada and Europe because they buy drugs that have been on the market for a few years off of the US at a notably reduced price).
China would likely end up taking over as the leading country in medical technology, as well
At least, that's what he's explained to me. I may be misremembering this slightly, since it was a while back
The defense of universal healthcare I've heard from Sargon is "it's convenient"
lol
There's also the problem of the amount of people relying on high paying, relatively accessible jobs in healthcare, like nursing. The payment for all those jobs would have to decrease
@aguyyouknow yes. That’s generally true. The US pays for a large portion of medicine research. That’s why our drug prices are so high. The other countries just fix prices and don’t pay their fair share because of it.
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Back to universal health.
Try this in a question:
1) Would you give first aid to someone bleeding out?
2) Would you house a plague victim if hospitals were full?
3) Would you tolerate a plague carrier?
These are hectic things below our thinking centres
@Nic Harvard Reason #1 why I don’t want universal healthcare: I’m not paying for lifestyle caused health problems.
It literally subsidizes bad choices.
Check three options above? *^
I would give someone help if they were bleeding out, however I don’t want the government to force me to do it.