Message from @C1PHER

Discord ID: 601832939986092052


2019-07-19 17:38:26 UTC  

When anyone says "no his supporters know he's a racist rapist but they dont care" all hope is lost

2019-07-19 17:38:33 UTC  

I'm not even sure how that can be an argument

2019-07-19 17:38:51 UTC  

Half the nation hates women and blacks yeah sure

2019-07-19 17:39:00 UTC  

It is if you think you’re right about everything

2019-07-19 17:39:28 UTC  

He has to defend why he thinks a statement or action is racist

2019-07-19 17:39:29 UTC  

Yeah I guess it must be

2019-07-19 17:39:46 UTC  

He's defending it to himself at that point

2019-07-19 17:39:49 UTC  

To make himself happy

2019-07-19 17:40:30 UTC  

He didn't even try to defend his position.

If I tell someone is a racist loud enough, it must make it true right?

2019-07-19 17:41:08 UTC  

Here let me tell you why you're such a bad person for not calling this racist Hitler. Ohh you say you don't think he's racist? Well you're wrong and are just defending a racist.

2019-07-19 17:41:19 UTC  

Idk if you can even call it circular logic.

2019-07-19 17:42:09 UTC  

That's the argument yeah

2019-07-19 17:42:12 UTC  

No. It’s just bulverism.

2019-07-19 17:42:21 UTC  

To an extent

2019-07-19 17:43:02 UTC  

They assume the person’s motive behind their words or actions and use that assumption to attack them.

2019-07-19 17:44:24 UTC  

Sometimes it’s an ok tactic to force people to expand on why they think a certain thing, but that’s not what’s being done here.

2019-07-19 17:46:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/601832131412361248/Screenshot_20190719-114537__01.jpg

2019-07-19 17:46:20 UTC  

Ohh look, he gave a "I know more than you" response thinking that's an argument.

2019-07-19 17:49:03 UTC  

He must have a 10,000W bulb in that projector.

2019-07-19 17:49:04 UTC  

“Putting your logic above the wellbeing of actual living humans” there it is right there, the moral self righteousness

2019-07-19 17:49:14 UTC  

*heh, nothin personell kid*

2019-07-19 17:49:45 UTC  

"I'm #1 so why try harder?

2019-07-19 17:50:03 UTC  

Total failure to realize that you and he do not have the same definitions of 'harm' or 'care for others' and his is most likely completely incoherent.

2019-07-19 17:51:05 UTC  

Has he given you a single concrete example of who, exactly, Trump is hurting, or why he believes that Trump is a rapist?

2019-07-19 17:51:10 UTC  

Quite the assertions.

2019-07-19 17:51:11 UTC  

No

2019-07-19 17:51:16 UTC  

You've seen the entire thread.

2019-07-19 17:51:58 UTC  

This seems to be a trend among lefties that they can’t fathom that maybe conservatives care about people too but just disagree with the methods of caring.

2019-07-19 17:52:07 UTC  

"Okay. Provide proof that Trump is racist. Provide proof that he's raped people (accusations =\= conclusive proof).

I'm not disagreeing with you on the nepotism or the lying, and only slightly disagreeing on the corruption. None of that is new in DC.

I'm asking you to back up your claims of racism and sexual assault. You're the one assuming my and nearly half the countries moral character based off voting habits. (PS. I didn't even vote for Trump)

I couldn't care less about your credentials or life experience. Show me the evidence to back up your claims."

2019-07-19 17:52:51 UTC  

My opinion: he's made it clear that this conversation cannot be genuine. I would bail.

2019-07-19 17:52:55 UTC  

Only fix is that =/= means not equal.

2019-07-19 17:53:06 UTC  

If you haven't posted that already.

2019-07-19 17:54:11 UTC  

@C1PHER I like pointless arguments sometimes. And since he's family I'll give him a chance.

2019-07-19 17:54:21 UTC  

I'm more just interested to see if he'll back his claims.

2019-07-19 17:56:32 UTC  

Yeah if anyone gives me a response like that

2019-07-19 17:56:36 UTC  

It's over

2019-07-19 17:56:38 UTC  

No helping them

2019-07-19 17:56:45 UTC  

I just say "that isn't an argument"

2019-07-19 17:56:49 UTC  

And they complain

2019-07-19 17:57:25 UTC  

My opinion: his original post already made clear that he’s only interested in scolding and getting likes, not genuine conversation

2019-07-19 17:57:26 UTC  

Also they say "you wont out argue me and if you want to try I'm not going to engage"