Message from @tomhastherage

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2019-07-21 01:12:07 UTC  

I like how Bernie wants prisoners to vote.

2019-07-21 01:12:28 UTC  

But that doesn’t change the fact that its still a democracy and not an autocracy.

2019-07-21 01:12:56 UTC  

@Nucleon one could use the argument that feudalism and monarchy lasted far longer than democratic republicanism has so far and have therefore demonatrated their superiority. Saying it's a more archaic system doesn't say it's without merit.

2019-07-21 01:13:42 UTC  

And by extent I point to the fact that those systems eventually evolved into democracies, by force or not.

2019-07-21 01:13:56 UTC  

Evolved into?

2019-07-21 01:14:03 UTC  

Hahaha

2019-07-21 01:15:03 UTC  

We don’t have many monarchs today. Britain was a great example of a state that morphed into a democratic one over time.

2019-07-21 01:15:06 UTC  

any group of people can become a democracy by violently subjugating their opponents

2019-07-21 01:16:03 UTC  

technically the UK is still a constitutional monarchy

2019-07-21 01:16:09 UTC  

and by extension so is Canada

2019-07-21 01:16:27 UTC  

the UK is sad

2019-07-21 01:17:02 UTC  

really a shame they squandered their glorious history

2019-07-21 01:17:05 UTC  

I'd be willing to try a monarch with the power of recall. Basically investing more authority in the executive. I'd elect the board of directors similar to the Senate and they would serve the purpose of setting policy goals and replacing the CEO if needed.

2019-07-21 01:17:32 UTC  

*the monarchy would not be hereditary

2019-07-21 01:17:39 UTC  

obviously

2019-07-21 01:17:40 UTC  

yes

2019-07-21 01:21:20 UTC  

so in your state who elects the Board/Senate?

2019-07-21 01:21:34 UTC  

please dont say all "citizens"

2019-07-21 01:22:07 UTC  

doesnt that depend on what a citizen is?

2019-07-21 01:22:17 UTC  

ok whats a citizen?

2019-07-21 01:22:24 UTC  

who counts?

2019-07-21 01:23:14 UTC  

I might leave that up to the state. Each state sends a single or pair of representatives chosen by that state using whatever method they see fit.

2019-07-21 01:23:34 UTC  

interesting

2019-07-21 01:23:42 UTC  

I like the notion of allowing the smaller units to experiment and innovate while keeping the larger structure stable.

2019-07-21 01:24:00 UTC  

probably one of the better ideas the US started with yes

2019-07-21 01:24:34 UTC  

sort of like large umbrella corps having many smaller subsidiaries

2019-07-21 01:25:05 UTC  

Very similar.

2019-07-21 01:25:43 UTC  

“please dont say all "citizens"”
Whats the problem with that? It the exact same as how CEO’s are elected and you seem fine with that.

2019-07-21 01:25:51 UTC  

no

2019-07-21 01:26:04 UTC  

citizens are half idiots and half worthless

2019-07-21 01:26:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/602310347487182879/Screenshot_20190720-192529__01.jpg

2019-07-21 01:26:21 UTC  

Look at this dude

2019-07-21 01:26:24 UTC  

shareholders have all invested and care that their investment succeeds

2019-07-21 01:26:47 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz so he still hasn't given you a damn thing wow.

2019-07-21 01:26:49 UTC  

"Trump's a racist cause look at him"

2019-07-21 01:27:10 UTC  

What a fucking dingle shit.

2019-07-21 01:27:11 UTC  

doubtful

2019-07-21 01:27:25 UTC  

not even all government reps want america to succeed

2019-07-21 01:27:49 UTC  

AOC. Illhan Omar etc

2019-07-21 01:28:01 UTC  

@uncephalized it's actually someone else that has jumped in on the convo. So I have 2 libs that won't give me evidence.

2019-07-21 01:28:10 UTC  

So who should get the right to vote? Because then you get things like peasant revolts when you ignore groups. How fatherly of you.