Message from @Beemann

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2019-07-22 04:15:05 UTC  

but the data we have suggests that unless you're one of a very small group of people, you probably got fat through behavoiur. Gentics can play a role, but the thing that will turn you into a hamplanet is your own decision to stuff 5 extra big macs in your mouth on the daily

2019-07-22 04:15:44 UTC  

I'm sure there that can be an influence, yes, but obesity in America is largely due to lack of self-control, and the free market creating cheap, quick, and shitty food at convenience rate.

2019-07-22 04:15:59 UTC  

> you probably got fat through behavior

2019-07-22 04:16:01 UTC  

Agreed.

2019-07-22 04:16:44 UTC  

the issue I take is that it's not really an opinion thing, it's fact. So for it to be thrown in there is a bit odd. I guess because there are some people who think theyre helpless to not be fat?

2019-07-22 04:17:01 UTC  

Ah, I see where you're going with this.

2019-07-22 04:17:33 UTC  

A large amount of people lack self-discipline in whatever form or shape that may take.

2019-07-22 04:17:46 UTC  

well, just in the context of the quiz itself

2019-07-22 04:17:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/602715905155137557/Screenshot_20190721-211718_Chrome.jpg

2019-07-22 04:17:50 UTC  

Right.

2019-07-22 04:18:14 UTC  

I think genetics play a large part in many aspects of development and later life. It *can* even influence behaviour

2019-07-22 04:18:25 UTC  

and so in a roundabout way you could try to argue that it isn't your fault

2019-07-22 04:18:41 UTC  

but you've now separated behaviour in the question as well

2019-07-22 04:18:46 UTC  

I find it annoying when people try to fabricate any excuse under the sun.

2019-07-22 04:18:50 UTC  

Take ownership in your faults.

2019-07-22 04:19:06 UTC  

tbh most of the questions in the quiz fall into that, wherein you could have a full debate about the substance of the question itself

2019-07-22 04:19:15 UTC  

Even if its your genes fault thats still you. Just accept it

2019-07-22 04:19:32 UTC  

wherein you'd need to know the context of the statement you're being asked about

2019-07-22 04:19:32 UTC  

@Beemann agreed

2019-07-22 04:19:52 UTC  

And just like Hitler, we should strive towards genetic purity. Heil! /s

2019-07-22 04:20:27 UTC  

another one that got me was the one about equality of opportunity resulting in "fairness"
I strongly suspect, but have not yet confirmed, that this is an idealism vs materialism argument. I suppose it could be markets too

2019-07-22 04:20:40 UTC  

No well have much more effective methods than Hitler

2019-07-22 04:20:48 UTC  

And we'll be nicer about it

2019-07-22 04:20:52 UTC  

^^^

2019-07-22 04:21:08 UTC  

but that also depends on what you mean by fair. Is it asking if you think we will get "egalitarian" options in that situation? Or is it that you think that by virtue of having the starting point be even that the result is fair by extension

2019-07-22 04:21:43 UTC  

Yeah that question was very weird

2019-07-22 04:21:51 UTC  

It had built in assumptions

2019-07-22 04:22:11 UTC  

If I'm not confusing the two, equality of opportunity trumps equality of outcome, but people through various means are unequal to varying degrees. I don't believe you can mitigate every avenue.

2019-07-22 04:22:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266396659062145025/602717097436643358/image0.png

2019-07-22 04:22:54 UTC  

Damn yuma. Almost maxed out the puritan meter

2019-07-22 04:23:05 UTC  

Yep I'm a Puritan

2019-07-22 04:23:14 UTC  

My man! *aquamam voice*

2019-07-22 04:23:30 UTC  

Aquaman* lol

2019-07-22 04:23:33 UTC  

oof

2019-07-22 04:23:43 UTC  

aquama'am

2019-07-22 04:24:09 UTC  

Probably because I said women should feel shame for sleeping around

2019-07-22 04:24:14 UTC  

Among other things

2019-07-22 04:24:32 UTC  

Haha i only put partly agree on the sluts question

2019-07-22 04:24:37 UTC  

By the power vested in me...

2019-07-22 04:24:39 UTC  

Shoulda gone full puritan

2019-07-22 04:24:44 UTC  

I. AM. HE-MAAM!