Message from @Lord Zedd

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2019-07-31 02:01:40 UTC  

i don't know about that, the usa, canada, new zealand, and australia were conquered.

2019-07-31 02:02:19 UTC  

So you want to replace the native population?

2019-07-31 02:02:28 UTC  

I think it's a combination of factors

2019-07-31 02:02:54 UTC  

Yes.

2019-07-31 02:04:38 UTC  

Why isnt it possible that the humans of some areas never needed to evolve much more than an ape? It doesnt matter what structures you introduce, these people are not able to live in a civilization.

2019-07-31 02:06:24 UTC  

I think China's goal in Africa, and everywhere else they are involved, is to use those countries for what we use China for.

2019-07-31 02:07:16 UTC  

I think it's more than just cheap labour I think the end goal is to colonise those countries with as many people as they can take

2019-07-31 02:07:32 UTC  

especially the poor

2019-07-31 02:07:58 UTC  

What do you mean, ship off poor chinese people?

2019-07-31 02:08:32 UTC  

they can only build so many mega cities to deal with their massive population of mostly dirt poor people

2019-07-31 02:08:51 UTC  

Those cities are apparently trash, too.

2019-07-31 02:09:04 UTC  

I think they want natural resources

2019-07-31 02:09:07 UTC  

They weren't built to last.

2019-07-31 02:09:11 UTC  

which is probably good for Africa in the long run, the chinese are pretty hard workers

2019-07-31 02:09:13 UTC  

I think it is to apply economic pressure to get these countries to support China on a global scale and to build up a network of traderoutes completely under chinese control

2019-07-31 02:09:36 UTC  

that's only step one and they're open with that
that's the Belt and Road initiative

2019-07-31 02:09:49 UTC  

they're buying up ports and resources all over the world

2019-07-31 02:10:07 UTC  

well they arent so open about how they pressure these countries

2019-07-31 02:10:22 UTC  

they're not exactly hiding it either

2019-07-31 02:10:50 UTC  

some leaders are just that stupid and that corrupt that they'll take the loans without any hesitation

2019-07-31 02:11:39 UTC  

it's in the US's best interest to be invested in Africa

2019-07-31 02:12:04 UTC  

otherwise it just leaves China with a massive amount of resources to exploit making shit they stole from the US

2019-07-31 02:14:47 UTC  

China isnt just interested in Africa they are trying it in Europe too. For example Greece got a giant investment from China, and when the EU wanted to condem Chinas for its human rights abuses greece blocked that

2019-07-31 02:15:26 UTC  

they're trying it everywhere Africa is just the easy pickings

2019-07-31 02:15:47 UTC  

they are heavily involved in Venezuela holding up Maduro

2019-07-31 02:16:02 UTC  

all through out SE Asia too

2019-07-31 02:17:16 UTC  

When they get control over a small number of countries around the world they can do what they want and no international organization will be able to speak out about it, as long as one of the organizations members is under chinese influence

2019-07-31 02:18:03 UTC  

Im not a fan of these supergovernmental structures but at the moment they are the structures used to keep China under control

2019-07-31 02:19:12 UTC  

and we havent really come up with alternatives

2019-07-31 02:20:01 UTC  

The US cant get involved in Africa like China can though because of public opinion

2019-07-31 02:20:23 UTC  

they flout every rule and are never punished for it
because greed stops the west cracking down and booting them from WTO

2019-07-31 02:25:15 UTC  

Wouldnt work I think, since the general public doesnt see China as a major threat. The second consumer prices start going up significantly people would call for china to be admitted again. People are only willing to suffer when they feel they are under attack.

2019-07-31 02:27:27 UTC  

The general public :/

2019-07-31 02:28:14 UTC  

it's not like there aren't a whole lot more poor countries where they came from

2019-07-31 02:28:19 UTC  

Japan used to be that country

2019-07-31 02:28:50 UTC  

and wouldn't you know it Africa is full of poor countries

2019-07-31 02:29:30 UTC  

@[DGI]tech at least its also hard for the other side to get them motivated. Otherwise you would have first Gentleman Bill right now.

2019-07-31 02:32:40 UTC  

@Lord Zedd sorry I dont understand your point.

2019-07-31 02:34:37 UTC  

speak Deutsch bitte

2019-07-31 02:34:45 UTC  

is that if China were kicked out the WTO they could simply move all that manufacturing to a new country for probably even less

2019-07-31 02:35:02 UTC  

China gives no fuck's.