Message from @Lord Zedd
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they are suspended from buying new fire arms while flagged
and red flags could play into buying a gun down the line
ugh my typing today...
the question is, do you inform them they are flagged?
it's potentially dangerous to people around them because "snitches get stitches" but it also could have a deterrent effect knowing they're being watched
If you are hell bent on doing a mass shooting, the fact you don't have a gun wouldn't deter you, you would find another way or you would get a new gun out of the trunk of your local thugs car.
that's kind of the same argument the left uses with the wall though
"they'll just use ladders"
so why build a wall at all?
you might not stop all but if you could prevent some
sometimes the best you can do is manage an issue, you're not going to stop all crime but you should make it as difficult as possible for them to do it
I think the real solution to a lot of the gun violence isn't really in regulation and laws but fixing the broken systems in place
the FBI seems completely inept and police are often hamstringed by their local leaders
sadly any potential red flag law would be useless unless that system is fixed first
I agree with you, we should prevent as much as we can. Im just pointing out people will find other ways, not that nothing should be done.
But how to do that is really the issue
it's not a simple issue, it's got layers, there's societal level stuff like fatherless households, the demonisation and marginalisation of men, the lack of policing, the lack of activities for young people
but better policing is a start
Instead of one red flag, maybe you need to have .. i don't know like 5 flags before action can be taken.
hmm or a weighted system
until something is actually drafted all we can really do is speculate
Yup, ultimately it's not up to us peasants. Our keepers will inform us of their decision. Doesn't mean we shouldn't make noise, just the choice is not ours.
yeah definitely as I said Trump is pretty accessible through people like Tucker and Hannity there's a sort of pipeline to reach Trump
ultimately though I don't have any real say or stakes in this, but I'm grateful that we don't have a gun culture here that stabbing in Sydney the other day could have been a lot worse if he had a gun and not a knife
they might not have been able to stop the guy with chairs and crates
but we can have that because the US has its gun culture
The wounds inflicted by a knife are really severe (or can be), you can do as much damage with a knife as with a gun. You just don't have the ranged ability. So I don't know if I would say the attack would be less lethal with a knife then with a gun.
I mean only one life was lost it could have been many more
I see, I see.