Few stores have the shite we are talking about

live in singapore

I'll just pick on e and be done with it

Creative is shit, just saying

I've tried the Trio 3 before, they sounded like shit and I hated them.

I don't see the Aurvana sounding any better.

brands =/= product

also yes most of their stuff is shit

just not cal

I mean you could say the same thing about KZ then, but it doesn't apply to them.

thats why most people clarify calv1 not calv2

Most Creative products are horrible. Even their DACs have high OI.

X-Fi Go has 10-20 Ohm OI

For the same price you could buy an SMSL Idea.

til oi is the only quality worth looking for in a dac

There's more, but having high OI is a pain in the dick.

Can't drive sensitive earphones worth shit.

its not the end-be-all like you're trying to paint it as

I mean, there's better build quality on a Trond AC2 than there is in an X-Fi Go.

Ahhh

X-Fi Go is made out of the same chinky plastic you find on a $3 sound card.

And costs close to $60 in Canada.

>buying "better" sound cards instead of improving front or back end audio

tip rolling, tube rolling, dac rolling

autists

might just get m40x

dont

why

its 110 aud rn

whats better then

stock pads on m40x and m50x suck ass and arent comfy at all

and swapping them to anything thicker basically makes the headphone sound even worse

but at 110 aud what is better the takstars?

which takstars

takstar 82

but whats an alternative to m40x

do you need isolation?

no

creative aurvana live

alright

the cheapest ones right