Message from @Big T
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does the world really need that many coders?
i can't imagine the IT field would handle having that many extra coders.
we'd just end up with thousands upon thousands of out of work coders who'll have to train for a new job that may have already been made obsolete through automation thanks to all the coders
IT and software development arent the same thing
you wont automate software devs
Both are gay tho
I was using IT as a catch all here
even using it as a catch all doesnt do much. the skill gap between ppl who attend a bootcamp and those with a degree in cs is immense
also software is made obsolete by automation all the time, better code reduces the need for more coders
software, but not software jobs
none of that deals with creating new enterprise software
but with software being optimised you need fewer software designers
its not that simple
the media doesnt understand this
there are developement and maintenance phases, sure. but that doesnt mean the demand for software devs goes down
the life cycle of software is still finite, so new development will always follow
my IDE can auto generate some boilerplate code, but it cannot create a program for me
yet
thats not how ai works, it cant
the auto generation is literally just a template
also to expand on my original point, who's to say that a bunch of coal miners would even be good coders even if they could be trained
simply a program that outputs text
im not arguing in favor of that, but rather against the idea of software dev being obsolete eventually by automation
anyone who says so, simply doesnt understand ai
and i was making a broader point about the short sightedness of their mindset
we can agree on that
retraining is useful, but theres better trades that would be more transferable for a coal miner
so according to google there's around 50000 coal miners in the US
imagine you could train all 50000 to code, imagine the havoc that would cause in the industry
to any industry
honestly with the bootcamps out there, it would just be the web dev/design industry lol
hmm Samsung have about 40000 Google have like 18000
they wouldnt get a second look at any application/systems jobs
that too so you have a bunch of unemployed code miners
yup
and so many of those existing employees arent technical. sales, hr, product support etc
ppl forget that side
the numbers I got were mostly in software
im not sure about that. lemme check
well that's according to business insider and it's just an estimate but it's a good working number for the argument
Samsung as a whole has 275000 employees which is ridiculous
maybe youre right. apparently googles total count is 98,771