Message from @Beemann

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2019-03-20 01:45:25 UTC  

Men's Rights? Never heard JBP mention anything about men's rights let alone legal policy to equalise things

2019-03-20 01:48:04 UTC  

I think the accusation stems from the fact that he challenges feminist dogma like patriarchy, wage gap, and all difference being all social.

2019-03-20 01:48:05 UTC  

He's mentioned MRAs

2019-03-20 01:48:21 UTC  

The thing that gets me about it though is the association chain

2019-03-20 01:49:32 UTC  

Conflate incels and PUAs with Supreme Gentlemen and other mentally ill outliers
Conflate MRAs with incels and PUAs
Then MRA becomes a wrongthink label you can apply to Peterson

2019-03-20 01:50:52 UTC  

what MRA's has he mentioned?

2019-03-20 01:52:14 UTC  

He's mentioned the things they complain about, mentioning them in the process

2019-03-20 01:52:30 UTC  

It's not a specific namedrop, moreso a movement thing

2019-03-20 01:53:06 UTC  

And yeah, his ideas align with some of MRA/MGtOW philosophy, though many from both groups think he's a shitty tradcon as well

2019-03-20 01:53:29 UTC  

Did anyone watch the film 'The Red Pill'? It was about MRA

2019-03-20 01:53:48 UTC  

Yup. You watch Cassie's YT channel?

2019-03-20 01:54:09 UTC  

Naw, I just want to know how connected redpill and MRA are

2019-03-20 01:54:10 UTC  

I watched it

2019-03-20 01:54:11 UTC  

yeah, I helped fund the movie

2019-03-20 01:54:23 UTC  

got a 1080p d/l for it

2019-03-20 01:54:30 UTC  

It's fellow travelers shit

2019-03-20 01:56:44 UTC  

It's just curious it's called *The* Red Pill

2019-03-20 01:56:46 UTC  

there's the red pill movie, TRP, red pill(the concept)

2019-03-20 01:57:10 UTC  

The red pill is just the saying

2019-03-20 01:57:15 UTC  

People use it for all sorts of shit

2019-03-20 01:57:25 UTC  

It's the original "woke"

2019-03-20 01:57:29 UTC  

TRP often gets conflated with MRA's even though it has nothing to do with each other

2019-03-20 01:57:31 UTC  

Yeah, I guess I'm reading too much into it

2019-03-20 01:57:36 UTC  

Right

2019-03-20 01:57:49 UTC  

It's just that you have a plebbit community named after it too

2019-03-20 01:58:03 UTC  

I didn't know if they were trying to make it their own thing or what

2019-03-20 01:58:10 UTC  

I guess so then lol

2019-03-20 01:58:49 UTC  

r/TRP is basicaly PUA mindset directed to marriage

2019-03-20 01:59:21 UTC  

People try to conflate MRM/MGtOW, r/TRP, PUA, Incel, etc because there's some things sometimes that they sort of agree upon

2019-03-20 01:59:25 UTC  

Meanwhile virtually everyone else on the internet use it differently lol

2019-03-20 01:59:50 UTC  

Seems so

2019-03-20 01:59:56 UTC  

the lingo all falls under the umbrella of the manosphere

2019-03-20 01:59:59 UTC  

It's like trying to say that Hillary is a socialist because she and AOC both want to tax you

2019-03-20 02:00:27 UTC  

Or like that one chart that linked Tim Pool to Richard Spencer

2019-03-20 02:01:22 UTC  

Yep. And Tim Pool was on JRE, and so was Ben. Therefore Richard Spencer has ties to Ben Shapiro

2019-03-20 02:01:58 UTC  

Or like how in glorious socialist USSR where everything was good and perfect, you could get gulag'd for knowing someone as a child who later became a white army traitor, or some other subversive element

2019-03-20 02:02:24 UTC  

🤔 lefties play the same game as the KGB. I wonder why

2019-03-20 02:06:01 UTC  

Mmhm. And I believe we encounter predictive programming in America all the time. But that's another conversation lol

2019-03-20 02:07:22 UTC  

That movie made me super angry.

2019-03-20 02:07:59 UTC  

Especially that guy that said that his wife basically tricked him into knocking her up, and then she took the kid and left.

2019-03-20 03:32:22 UTC  

@Agent Smith Peterson has taking some of the arguments MRA's have been making for years.
Not only that but he has done a few things with the honey badgers (and some other MRAs), and Karen's post about his Kavanaugh tweet was one of the biggest reasons he got to rethink about it more. As well as MRA's/MGTOW has giving him better arguments then he first had about why some men aren't getting married (even if they might want to).
(you should know most of this tho, which is odd to me why you asked)