Message from @Avald

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2019-08-28 11:08:58 UTC  

Unless I’m missing the criticism.

2019-08-28 11:08:59 UTC  

shouldn't she be worrying about the medival diseases that are making a come back in california etc?

2019-08-28 11:09:24 UTC  

Yeah. The ones that aren’t associated with climate change ?

2019-08-28 11:09:26 UTC  

Sure.

2019-08-28 11:09:38 UTC  

But that’s not going to advance her agenda

2019-08-28 11:10:21 UTC  

Are there any YouTube channels that actually criticize environmentalists?

2019-08-28 11:10:26 UTC  

I can’t think of any.

2019-08-28 11:21:46 UTC  

any that do usually also go into climate denial etc, and are probably being censored due to being conspiracy theories or whatever

2019-08-28 11:23:43 UTC  

Probably true. Geez.

2019-08-28 11:25:04 UTC  

It’s frustrating. I wonder if criticism in a YouTube video would actually change enough people’s minds.

2019-08-28 11:53:52 UTC  

The insanity of environmentalism is why I sort of want to make YouTube videos

2019-08-28 12:08:52 UTC  

The thing that bothers me about environmentalism is that people will always blather about 'Al Gore and AOC aren't climate experts, their wild predictions can't be taken as evidence that environmentalists don't care about truth so much as pushing the narrative.'

2019-08-28 12:09:18 UTC  

And yet, those same people don't condemn people like Al Gore or AOC when they make their stupid predictions.

2019-08-28 12:10:31 UTC  

If someone that claimed to believe in the same cause as me was making wild claims that made me look like an idiot for believing in the same things, you bet I would make it known that I thought that person was stupid and ought to shut up.

2019-08-28 12:12:14 UTC  

I had someone try and do that to me about abortion years ago, trying to undermine my position by linking to stories about people that were supposedly pro life, and supposedly Christian, and yet would get an abortion themselves when they got knocked up, and it really pissed me off.

2019-08-28 12:18:59 UTC  

Well, the problem is that any dissent is pretty much silenced too.

2019-08-28 12:19:47 UTC  

If you aren’t on the ‘100% renewables is the only option’ train then you are absolutely wrong according to environmentalists

2019-08-28 12:20:23 UTC  

Thankfully there is a growing consensus that nuclear is necessary, but that’s really only from more centrist outlets

2019-08-28 12:31:45 UTC  

aka people with a brain

2019-08-28 12:45:28 UTC  

I'm pretty sure that the 'disease frozen in the glaciers' thing is part of a premise to a video game.

2019-08-28 12:47:01 UTC  

and even then, those diseases will be quite vulnerable to our antibiotics, since they have had 0 exposure towards them

2019-08-28 13:02:28 UTC  

Plus nobody knows how long they would survive after being thawed

2019-08-28 13:03:04 UTC  

And it’s unlikely that enough people would be infected in that timeframe to cause an epidemic

2019-08-28 13:03:51 UTC  

Ebola is the disease that AOC should be worried about, but there’s a trial vaccine for it I think

2019-08-28 13:05:00 UTC  

Plus the best way to prevent the spread of disease is border control - Obama understood that when his administration basically eliminated travel and immigration to countries with Ebola outbreaks in west Africa

2019-08-28 13:05:21 UTC  

It’s effectively the same logic as the ‘Muslim ban’

2019-08-28 13:06:23 UTC  

We don’t want to import dangerous, infected individuals into our country, so we severely restrict travel/immigration from areas where the infections occur

2019-08-28 13:06:51 UTC  

Nobody shrieked that Obama was racist when he did it over Ebola.

2019-08-28 13:07:44 UTC  

If you loosen the definitions enough, 'diseases Frozen in glaciers' was the premise for The Thing.

2019-08-28 13:35:06 UTC  

Why is anyone surprised about this?

2019-08-28 14:01:58 UTC  

The mass hysteria is retarded.

2019-08-28 14:18:03 UTC  

Agreed; the sad part is that none of those measures will be effective. Cover is inadequate on its own. It's best used in conjunction with some kind of specialized tool designed to force shooters to stop in their tracks.

2019-08-28 14:20:55 UTC  

Hmm, what kind of tool would work for that?

I'm envisioning something that would enable a person to throw something dense at the shooter at high speed... maybe it could use a pressurized hot gas to throw it out of a long tube? There would need to be some kind of mechanism to allow the defender to activate it on command... Maybe with one finger.

This will take some thinking.

2019-08-28 14:23:50 UTC  

Maybe river rocks or hockey pucks

2019-08-28 14:24:14 UTC  

Good thinking soldier. We could keep them in buckets.

2019-08-28 14:26:13 UTC  

Locked up, of course - can't have those kids getting into them too easily or quickly

2019-08-28 17:01:05 UTC  

1. Yes, school shootings are real.
2. They're still utterly rare.
That doesn't mean we should do nothing, but stupid assinine bullshit answers like rocks and hockey pucks (and rubber batons) help the problem, nor does spotlighting (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/spotlight.html), which that CBC article clearly (absolutely and unquestionably) is.
Now, that rant over... There are other related reasons to secure schools; Most of y'all are too young to remember, but in the late 198Ø's and early '9Ø's, there was a rash of non-custodial parental kidnappings at schools. There's ***STILL*** a drug problem in many schools (Paterson NJ's Eastside High School former principal Joe CLARK became famous when hr took the problem on with baseball bats and chains on the doors, *Lean on Me* was loosely based on his story).
But nothing stops a shooter as fast as knowing he's *GOING* to die if he tries.