Message from @Catboi

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2019-12-15 22:25:22 UTC  

I'm making it sound more flat than it is, but it's definitely there

2019-12-15 22:25:28 UTC  

Earth is portrayed not so great with UBI

2019-12-15 22:25:31 UTC  

Mars doesn't have UBI

2019-12-15 22:25:50 UTC  

Mars is like a libertarianish society

2019-12-15 22:25:53 UTC  

terraforming mars

2019-12-15 22:26:17 UTC  

There's a lot there, it's just it really occured to me about how belters are just the evils of colonialism narrative put in space

2019-12-15 22:26:34 UTC  

Like "hey, we wanted to keep these traditions" so some rebel and ask for everything to be returned to normal
But then most people are pretty okay with having proper agriculture and not sacrificing children to appease spirits and shit, and the officials just want everyone to shut up and assimilate to the degree that it creates stability and profitability

2019-12-15 22:26:36 UTC  

Ah

2019-12-15 22:26:37 UTC  

After books 4 is when I started going meh

2019-12-15 22:26:59 UTC  

On earth there's like illegal people because they force abortions

2019-12-15 22:27:24 UTC  

and without a real identity you cant get UBI on earth

2019-12-15 22:27:31 UTC  

Ah

2019-12-15 22:27:32 UTC  

so there's a whole underclass of criminals

2019-12-15 22:27:49 UTC  

there's interesting stuff in the Expanse still, the first 2 books are good, I think it really falls off at 4

2019-12-15 22:29:02 UTC  

A lot of the SF people are extreme shitlibs, and it shows in a lot of newer books IMO

2019-12-15 22:29:09 UTC  

Really I'm fine dropping a series short as long as the narrative threads have some sort of cut in the middle

2019-12-15 22:29:27 UTC  

Like a timelapse or they solve the interesting problems

2019-12-15 22:29:46 UTC  

Expanse has like 10-30 year jumps in the later books

2019-12-15 22:30:19 UTC  

the first 2 wrap up the main story, but there's a thread you can complete with book 4 if you want

2019-12-15 22:31:56 UTC  

I haven't read any VanderMeer but I wat thinking about giving it a try

2019-12-15 22:32:24 UTC  

event hough he seems just like the nutty feminazi that wrote the Anscillary justice book about the Ship AIs and cultures with no concept of "gender"

2019-12-15 22:33:04 UTC  

Annihilation seems very Roadside Picnic inspired

2019-12-15 22:33:40 UTC  

But few are as based as Russian sci fi writers tbh

2019-12-15 22:33:51 UTC  

I've just sort of accepted you can't avoid some pozz and them trying to slide their politics in with any SF unless you find virtual unknown indie authors online.

2019-12-15 22:34:25 UTC  

I didn't notice it in the Expanse as much until the other day when I found another clip of Abraham pronoucning that Trump is indeed Hitler

2019-12-15 22:35:20 UTC  

You got names for some of these based Russians?

2019-12-15 22:35:26 UTC  

are books in English?

2019-12-15 22:35:51 UTC  

Too bad I can't read russian

2019-12-15 22:37:01 UTC  

Roadside Picnic would be one. I need to read the other Strugatsky works. One just got translated a couple years back

2019-12-15 22:37:20 UTC  

Theres also the dystopian precursor, We, by Zamyatin

2019-12-15 22:37:40 UTC  

I sort of enjoyed Metro but I need to give it another read-through

2019-12-15 22:43:14 UTC  

Metro 2033 and Roadside Picnic are the ones I've read. They are fantastic books, but fuck are they depressing, Roadside Picnic especially.

2019-12-15 22:44:46 UTC  

The Doomed City is the one that got released more recently
The Zamyatin book is very short. I honestly find aspects of it to be the most horrifying of the dystopian fiction I've read

2019-12-15 22:54:22 UTC  

We is old

2019-12-15 22:54:26 UTC  

I read that long ago

2019-12-15 23:23:03 UTC  
2019-12-16 01:36:10 UTC  

@Beemann Annihilation is worth a watch. It has a mopey ending but its not a BAD ending. It just kind of ends.

2019-12-16 01:36:16 UTC  

Overall a really good movie though.

2019-12-16 01:41:43 UTC  

One again Israel does the world’s dirty work. https://btnews.online/denmark-israels-mossad-gave-the-intel-to-prevent-jihadi-massacres-on-danish-soil/

2019-12-16 03:31:35 UTC  

@Old Man Hound I saw the film first. I honestly thought the ending was pretty awful but the rest of it was good