Message from @Catboi
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Ah
and their whole thing is like the colonial opression narrative
That's basically what happened to the "Belters"
I kinda want a story that does the 50/50
even though if you look at any sort of group that would be like that in the real world, they'd all have gotten well off at worst, and damn rich at best
There's some corporate conspiracy stuff too
I'm making it sound more flat than it is, but it's definitely there
Earth is portrayed not so great with UBI
Mars doesn't have UBI
Mars is like a libertarianish society
terraforming mars
There's a lot there, it's just it really occured to me about how belters are just the evils of colonialism narrative put in space
Like "hey, we wanted to keep these traditions" so some rebel and ask for everything to be returned to normal
But then most people are pretty okay with having proper agriculture and not sacrificing children to appease spirits and shit, and the officials just want everyone to shut up and assimilate to the degree that it creates stability and profitability
Ah
After books 4 is when I started going meh
On earth there's like illegal people because they force abortions
and without a real identity you cant get UBI on earth
Ah
so there's a whole underclass of criminals
there's interesting stuff in the Expanse still, the first 2 books are good, I think it really falls off at 4
Really I'm fine dropping a series short as long as the narrative threads have some sort of cut in the middle
Like a timelapse or they solve the interesting problems
Expanse has like 10-30 year jumps in the later books
the first 2 wrap up the main story, but there's a thread you can complete with book 4 if you want
I haven't read any VanderMeer but I wat thinking about giving it a try
event hough he seems just like the nutty feminazi that wrote the Anscillary justice book about the Ship AIs and cultures with no concept of "gender"
Annihilation seems very Roadside Picnic inspired
But few are as based as Russian sci fi writers tbh
I've just sort of accepted you can't avoid some pozz and them trying to slide their politics in with any SF unless you find virtual unknown indie authors online.
I didn't notice it in the Expanse as much until the other day when I found another clip of Abraham pronoucning that Trump is indeed Hitler
You got names for some of these based Russians?
are books in English?
Too bad I can't read russian
Roadside Picnic would be one. I need to read the other Strugatsky works. One just got translated a couple years back
Theres also the dystopian precursor, We, by Zamyatin
I sort of enjoyed Metro but I need to give it another read-through
Metro 2033 and Roadside Picnic are the ones I've read. They are fantastic books, but fuck are they depressing, Roadside Picnic especially.
The Doomed City is the one that got released more recently
The Zamyatin book is very short. I honestly find aspects of it to be the most horrifying of the dystopian fiction I've read
We is old