Message from @Big T

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2019-08-26 19:34:05 UTC  

That was a definition of censorship, not created by me

2019-08-26 19:34:16 UTC  

thats a definition of SELF-censorship

2019-08-26 19:34:20 UTC  

not censorship

2019-08-26 19:34:36 UTC  

"the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security."

2019-08-26 19:34:47 UTC  

see how those are not equivalent?

2019-08-26 19:35:05 UTC  

Yep, the first one was of censorship in general. The second was to prove self censorship was not a putz term but a widely accepted socially recognized term

2019-08-26 19:35:31 UTC  

bro i know its not a "putz" term

2019-08-26 19:35:36 UTC  

im aware its an actual word

2019-08-26 19:35:47 UTC  

do you seriously think i dont know that?

2019-08-26 19:35:59 UTC  

@Putz
*"If you are an adult, your mom cannot FORCE you to do anything, yet im confident you still censor yourself in her presence"*
The HELL SHE CAN'T, only a fucking retard takes in his own mother... Even cops know better.

2019-08-26 19:36:11 UTC  
2019-08-26 19:37:22 UTC  

and i dont see where you linked the definition of censorship in general

2019-08-26 19:37:28 UTC  

So if self censorship is a form of censorship by societal standards which you acknowledged. And self censorship does not require force. Then force is not a prerequisite for censor

2019-08-26 19:38:21 UTC  

and duck duck go is wrong on that one lol

2019-08-26 19:39:15 UTC  

if self censorship is due to societal standards, then it is with social pressure that it is enforced.

2019-08-26 19:39:30 UTC  

force is still a prerequisite

2019-08-26 19:42:12 UTC  

So in the context of your post, if the person removed homophobic content because their boss told them to then yes it is based in force. If they removed it because they evolved and became more sensitive to homophobia organically then it wouldn't be based in force

2019-08-26 19:42:57 UTC  

Then the question would be if its removal is even a form of censor

2019-08-26 19:46:25 UTC  

in the case of "evolving" and choosing to remove old posts. why did they choose to remove them?

2019-08-26 19:46:44 UTC  

why go dig through a timeline and remove it?

2019-08-26 19:47:02 UTC  

if not for fear of what others will think

2019-08-26 19:47:47 UTC  

Well if their views have changed, they may see value in ensuring their products reflect their current views.

2019-08-26 19:48:19 UTC  

In a timeline where noone can look at things through the lens of the time of when it happened, this could be important

2019-08-26 19:48:54 UTC  

right. so it is from societal pressure

2019-08-26 19:49:06 UTC  

Im not saying your wrong, im saying i don't know their motivations and therefore would be reliant on projected motive

2019-08-26 19:49:24 UTC  

for sure.

2019-08-26 19:51:01 UTC  

Not societal pressure at all. Its important that people see me for who i am not who i was. Not because of societal force, but so that i can engage with a person and they come into the engagement with as accurate of an understanding of me as possible

2019-08-26 19:51:54 UTC  

I.e. there is room for non-nefarious motivations that arrive at the same outcome. The removal of homophobic content

2019-08-26 19:53:39 UTC  

fear of being perceived wrongly by society would still fall under societal pressure. sure, its non-nefarious.

2019-08-26 19:55:24 UTC  

after all, the argument is whether or not authority/force underpins censorship.

2019-08-26 20:41:52 UTC  

But that is not necesaarily based in fear. It could be based in convinence. It gets people to know you quicker if you don't have to waste time on inaccurate perceptions. A person with a professional haircut has an easier time in interviews. They may choose to cut there hair so they can spend less time proving why their haircut does not reflect an inability to do the job. They are not forced to cut their hair, they have chosen to based on self interest to ensure the perception of their appearance reflects their skill.

2019-08-26 22:14:21 UTC  

Hey guys I have a very serious question and I'm hoping to get a lot of peoples' opinions....

2019-08-26 22:20:36 UTC  

Uh oh...

2019-08-26 22:21:29 UTC  

Spill your secrets @Clive !

2019-08-26 22:22:00 UTC  

Rub some tussin on it

2019-08-26 22:23:06 UTC  
2019-08-26 22:30:27 UTC  

I'm wondering if I should get minecraft.

2019-08-26 22:48:35 UTC  

Minecraft is awesome