Message from @Putz

Discord ID: 615626002005229581


2019-08-24 14:55:25 UTC  

You can't comment at all...

2019-08-24 15:00:00 UTC  

in #xenoi you can

2019-08-24 15:00:47 UTC  

and #the long walls

2019-08-24 16:10:45 UTC  

Oh.

2019-08-24 21:30:33 UTC  

bro youre gonna get roasted hard in there lol @Mandatory Carry

2019-08-24 21:55:55 UTC  

Anybody else here a commercial driver per chance?

2019-08-24 22:14:54 UTC  
2019-08-24 23:59:22 UTC  

Just went through a Costa vida order. They asked if I wanted black or pinto beans. I asked for beans of colour and am offended.

2019-08-25 01:00:04 UTC  

Has anyone taken the comptia Security+ 501 test revently?

2019-08-25 22:12:45 UTC  

any of you guys in dallas going to the sabaton concert? i has no frens to go with.

2019-08-25 23:09:08 UTC  

i dont think thats the thing that makes me a nazi. pretty sure its the uniform.

2019-08-26 00:28:12 UTC  

Thanks, @Agent Smith! 👌

2019-08-26 05:11:03 UTC  

@Leman Russ, @Shire!
Didn't mean to bail on vc, network went out (again) so I'm on data. 😒😔

2019-08-26 05:27:26 UTC  

No biggy man! Good talkin!

2019-08-26 17:16:35 UTC  

Related to Ion Fury:
<https://twitter.com/Nifflas/status/1166024631784005632>
```Censorship is something forcefully imposed against one's will by someone in a more powerful position.```
Oh no, are we doing the racism thing with censorship too?

2019-08-26 19:07:08 UTC  

ah crap seriously?

2019-08-26 19:08:01 UTC  

although, it does require having authority to enforce any censorship

2019-08-26 19:15:16 UTC  

Censorship does not require force. You can use social influence to invoke self censorship. Its still censorship, i think the term censorship has to reflect the motivation to do it. If nifflas changes something to comply with personal belief then it is not censorship. If your doing it as a response to outside pressures, it is censorship

2019-08-26 19:16:12 UTC  

The fact things are created and then removed would indicate it is a done based on outside forces (if it was principaled you never would habe thought/considered it to start with)

2019-08-26 19:16:42 UTC  

censorship absolutely requires force. self censorship is simply capitulation to those that wield that force

2019-08-26 19:17:56 UTC  

The word force is problematic, i think you confuse force and influence

2019-08-26 19:18:08 UTC  

well i originally used the word authority

2019-08-26 19:18:20 UTC  

and i still think thats a better word

2019-08-26 19:18:59 UTC  

in this instance the publisher is the one that has authority over the game devs

2019-08-26 19:19:09 UTC  

Censorship does not require authority or force

2019-08-26 19:19:16 UTC  

how could it not?

2019-08-26 19:19:50 UTC  

Because you can censor based on influence, influence does not require authority or force

2019-08-26 19:20:06 UTC  

how do you censor based on influence?

2019-08-26 19:20:25 UTC  

Seems like a largely semantic argument

2019-08-26 19:21:00 UTC  

Threat of boycott could cause censorship, but isn't a form of force or authority, I suppose

2019-08-26 19:21:15 UTC  

its a threat of financial harm

2019-08-26 19:21:38 UTC  

You can choose to censor to avoid a diacussion about the subject as an example. There is no force

2019-08-26 19:22:31 UTC  

I don't talk about killing nazis in front of children. That is a form of censorship not based on force or authority

2019-08-26 19:22:56 UTC  

i dont see how that can be censorship if you do not desire to say it

2019-08-26 19:23:09 UTC  

nor are you compelled not to say it

2019-08-26 19:23:19 UTC  

Its self censorship, because i do desire to say it

2019-08-26 19:23:20 UTC  

you can say it, but you choose not to.

2019-08-26 19:23:35 UTC  

i dont think thats equivalent

2019-08-26 19:24:12 UTC  

nor does that disprove the need to have authority over someone in order to censor

2019-08-26 19:24:32 UTC  

It is equilevent because the motive for the censor matters

2019-08-26 19:24:42 UTC  

how?