Message from @Fondboy

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2019-09-11 22:01:40 UTC  

I'm sorry please correct me which leftist government protects an individual right to speak freely and bear civilian small arms

2019-09-11 22:02:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358326373594693642/621465612413042688/Dave_Chappelle_tata.jpg

2019-09-11 22:02:30 UTC  

they don't believe rights like that exist

2019-09-11 22:02:32 UTC  

to be protected

2019-09-11 22:02:33 UTC  

What's bad faith if you admitted China is a viable example?

2019-09-11 22:03:15 UTC  

I can link you some Friedman talking about going borderless with no welfare state as well

2019-09-11 22:03:32 UTC  

If you want some no border control "right wing"

2019-09-11 22:04:18 UTC  

the goal of communism is stateless classless moneyless

2019-09-11 22:04:33 UTC  

Communism isn't the entire "left"

2019-09-11 22:04:46 UTC  

sure

2019-09-11 22:05:00 UTC  

I didn't say America was left

2019-09-11 22:05:38 UTC  

Ancapism is stateless, pro property, pro individual rights. It's not the whole "right"

2019-09-11 22:05:49 UTC  

oh no

2019-09-11 22:05:50 UTC  

But to borrow a phrase, a lot of the dem candidates sure do love to "dog-whistle" to the far-left members of their base during the primaries

2019-09-11 22:05:54 UTC  

Ancapism is literally a meme

2019-09-11 22:06:06 UTC  

do you know what anarchisms goal is?

2019-09-11 22:06:11 UTC  

or the goal of an anarchist

2019-09-11 22:06:28 UTC  

You mean the goal of an anarchocommunist :^)

2019-09-11 22:06:36 UTC  

If you ask Mandatory, he'll say to install a dictator

2019-09-11 22:06:43 UTC  

xD

2019-09-11 22:06:51 UTC  

im asking beeman

2019-09-11 22:07:14 UTC  

anarchists want to eliminate class

2019-09-11 22:07:20 UTC  

@Beemann no need to be redundant 😉

2019-09-11 22:07:23 UTC  

how do you expect to do this under capitalism

2019-09-11 22:07:37 UTC  

The goal of an ancommie is to produce a society that operates on a level that assumes all component pieces will move correctly

2019-09-11 22:08:33 UTC  

Classlessness is an aspect of "left" anarchism. Hierarchies exist naturally outside of the state

2019-09-11 22:08:46 UTC  

I don't think humans can plan economies yet. But if an AI can do it perfectly then I would be down for socialism

2019-09-11 22:08:53 UTC  

and there would be no state beemann

2019-09-11 22:08:59 UTC  

Lol

2019-09-11 22:09:06 UTC  

Yes, which is why I said outside of the state

2019-09-11 22:09:16 UTC  

And an AI cannot

2019-09-11 22:09:31 UTC  

beemann that statement is very ignorant

2019-09-11 22:09:45 UTC  

AI will literally run the world in the future

2019-09-11 22:09:49 UTC  

It's not. It's asking to build a deterministic calculator

2019-09-11 22:10:22 UTC  

A market is, in effect the sum total of actions within a given population, measured by the exchange of goods

2019-09-11 22:10:46 UTC  

no it would be asking a computer to plan an economy that would be efficient and benefit as many people as possible while continuing to expand

2019-09-11 22:11:04 UTC  

Yes, which requires knowledge of what basically boils down to a market

2019-09-11 22:11:15 UTC  

Which breaks down to a minute level

2019-09-11 22:11:33 UTC  

And is ultimately driven by human behaviour

2019-09-11 22:12:56 UTC  

you know we don't understand how most AI we use works because we use AI to make new ones

2019-09-11 22:14:12 UTC  

We know that it's not magic though. There are limits to storage and processing power