Message from @Putz

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2019-06-15 23:56:47 UTC  

@Putz 1: Freezing interest does nothing to disincentevize paying off your loan once it's frozen as you HAVE to make the minimum payments to pay it off by year thirty otherwise 2) in your second response comes into play.

2: All loans would have to be front loaded. That would be the whole point. It would naturally reduce the number of people that take out loans for education which is retarded.

3: Socialism isn't anything that wasn't brought up by the free market.

4: a 50% profit is what would occur on loans with an APR of 5% right now. The whole idea is that interest rates for student loans would rise to discourage people getting loans in the first place.

"You say that government should not back the loans so i would assume that means you want it run by business so you would have to convince them that the rate of return justifies your solution or via government regulation"

Yeah, I think that businesses should have free reign to offer whatever loans they want. The problem is that right now the government backs student loans so you can't declare bankruptcy and liquidate your assets. Remove that and people will stop offering 100k loans because they're a bad investment.

2019-06-15 23:56:48 UTC  

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2019-06-15 23:58:19 UTC  

Conversly with a 1.36% APR or effectively a 1.36% APR with the freeze what insentive is there to prioritize paying off a student loan over higher interest debts like home morgage, credit card, or car loan

2019-06-15 23:59:28 UTC  

Socialism is when society shares the cost of your burden

2019-06-16 00:00:20 UTC  

If you want to front load the cost of student loans, why not just reduce the payback period to 10 years?

2019-06-16 00:00:21 UTC  

As far as your response to youtube goes:

1) That solution would make multiple generations ineligible to purchase anything they don't have the cash for.

2) That already happens if you don't pay off your minimum balance for 270 days

3) Again, this happens already, but that doesn't solve the issue of perpetual debt due to interest

4) You can't just wave a magic wand like that for existing loans.

2019-06-16 00:00:35 UTC  

No one could fucking do that man.

2019-06-16 00:00:47 UTC  

You can't pay off 100k in ten years.

2019-06-16 00:01:21 UTC  

In an ideal world student loans would be treated like any other loan, and no one would back them so the only people that go to school are the ones that can afford it with cash

2019-06-16 00:01:43 UTC  

I paid off my 400k house in 6.5 years. So yes you i can pay off 100k in ten years, try again

2019-06-16 00:01:55 UTC  

Not everyone makes over 100k a year dude.

2019-06-16 00:02:04 UTC  

"I did it, so why can't anyone else?"

2019-06-16 00:02:22 UTC  

Fuck that's narcisicistic man.

2019-06-16 00:02:46 UTC  

You dont need 100k a year to pay off 100k in 10 years, you need like 15k a year to do that

2019-06-16 00:03:09 UTC  

Okay if you have 0 other payments to make

2019-06-16 00:03:14 UTC  

Rarely is that the case.

2019-06-16 00:03:35 UTC  

Why are you so invested in this bad idea?

2019-06-16 00:04:10 UTC  

Because Bernie fucking Sanders would have been president cause of it if not for DNC corruption.

2019-06-16 00:04:15 UTC  

And me pointing out i did it, is not narcism, it shows your point of "can't" to be wrong

2019-06-16 00:04:27 UTC  

Can't for most of society

2019-06-16 00:04:43 UTC  

Can't is different than won't

2019-06-16 00:04:56 UTC  

Dude

2019-06-16 00:05:05 UTC  

the median income is less than 60k a year

2019-06-16 00:05:07 UTC  

Society can do it, it chooses not to

2019-06-16 00:05:12 UTC  

What the hell

2019-06-16 00:05:30 UTC  

60k a year is plenty to pay off 36k in student loans in less than 10 years

2019-06-16 00:05:38 UTC  

I think you overestimate how much money the average millennial makes dude.

2019-06-16 00:05:55 UTC  

I went by your estimate

2019-06-16 00:06:21 UTC  

Maybe you underestimate how much the average millenial wastes

2019-06-16 00:06:25 UTC  

Okay. But 36k in student loans isn't the average for millenials.

2019-06-16 00:06:39 UTC  

Sure millenials are wasteful, but they don't make that much money

2019-06-16 00:06:46 UTC  

If you have a college degree and you're not making 60k

2019-06-16 00:06:48 UTC  

wtf are you doing

2019-06-16 00:07:10 UTC  

Lots of people are in that situation @Just for youtube [NB1]

2019-06-16 00:07:17 UTC  

no shit

2019-06-16 00:07:20 UTC  

and wtf are they doing

2019-06-16 00:07:24 UTC  

why'd they go to college lol

2019-06-16 00:07:28 UTC  

Been indoctrinated

2019-06-16 00:07:30 UTC  

if they want to do a job that doesn't earn 60k

2019-06-16 00:07:33 UTC  

that's their fault still

2019-06-16 00:07:41 UTC  

Into thinking that's the only way to make it in society