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@Legalize I'll give you another example.
Say a parent is training a teen to drive, and the teen makes a mistake crashes into another car killing them.
By your reasoning, the parent should also be responsible for that death.

kid lets out the e-brake on his dad's truck, and crushes him to death while changing oil. charge the mom and the child...

heh

I said it first!

haha

@Legalize, ¿you still here?

i suppose i could really strawman it and say send the whole family to the firing squad

We do need less humans...

pssh we'll cap out at ~15 billion

birth rates and all that jazz

hi

Praise be to God for legalize

Don't strawman it.
Ok Legalize, out with it, ¿do I get charged with murder or not?

im teasing

How fascy we getting bois😎

Drunk drivers do.

I'm here for it

It wasn't an accident in my case...

involuntary manslaughter, or in worse cases voluntary

still a felony that regularly gets 10-20 years

10first offense get out 5 good behavior with probation

*"Ok... So my 11 year old steals my ex-wife's gun, shoots his classmates, ¿I face the death penalty? (Please look past the wet dream of me shutting up for a second...)"*

Oh yea. EX WIFE

@TheCompanyMan my man knows his stuff 😉

SEND HER TO THE CHAIR

@Big T;)

@Big Tonve upon a time thought about lawyering

the issue here @Legalize is this whole charging the kid as an adult to free the parent of culpability

Responsible to what degree though, that's what everyone is asking.

@TheCompanyMan same here, got a whole family of them

¿He's NOT my son now? Better tell the state of Oregon. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gun's in a safe. I know, I paid for the fucking thing...

@Big Tmust be great family dinners

@Mandatory Carrydo u have joint custody

If not

AINT YA SON

the thing with your vandalizing case is that the parents will be responsible for the civil part of it, but often the kid is responsible criminally.

@TheCompanyMan oh they actually are

I don't care if a person is charged as an adult or not, that's not the principle i'm working with.
Its, can you control another individuals every living action or not, if you can, then yes a parent should be held responsibly, if not, then no it would be immoral to do so.