Message from @eternalanglo

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2019-07-04 19:27:54 UTC  

i dont control you man

2019-07-04 19:27:58 UTC  

dont be scared

2019-07-04 19:28:14 UTC  

Breadtube (that's what they call themselves) is getting pushed a lot by the media

2019-07-04 19:28:30 UTC  

by the media?

2019-07-04 19:28:34 UTC  

like who?

2019-07-04 19:28:36 UTC  

vice?

2019-07-04 19:28:40 UTC  

bruhhh

2019-07-04 19:29:02 UTC  

you know why the name 'bread?'

2019-07-04 19:29:07 UTC  

>> how you get ratio'd lol

2019-07-04 19:29:11 UTC  

Get pushed by Vice

2019-07-04 19:29:33 UTC  

@eternalanglo So it might be easier to ask, what do you think CP's gets right? (unless you just watch him for the empty flash)

2019-07-04 19:30:05 UTC  

@ockraz because of Kropotkin

2019-07-04 19:30:30 UTC  

he has a very influential book called "the conquest of bread"

2019-07-04 19:31:38 UTC  

@Shadows i mean you are the one that claimed that the ideas are bad

2019-07-04 19:31:48 UTC  

can you not justify this?

2019-07-04 19:32:53 UTC  

I don't make claims without merit, but if i don't know what you agree with and don't its a bit harder to know where to start.

2019-07-04 19:33:50 UTC  

i havent watched all of her videos

2019-07-04 19:33:55 UTC  

just assume i agree with most things

2019-07-04 19:34:04 UTC  

just state one point that you disagree with

2019-07-04 19:34:59 UTC  

How about him advocating censorship.

2019-07-04 19:35:11 UTC  

what kind of censorship?

2019-07-04 19:36:11 UTC  

i think that saying youtube should follow through with their tos is ok

2019-07-04 19:36:24 UTC  

we dont want them to be biased am i right?

2019-07-04 19:37:17 UTC  

Why would you need to quantify censorship? Any is bad.

2019-07-04 19:37:49 UTC  

if the person is telling a company to follow through with its tos i think its fine

2019-07-04 19:39:09 UTC  

And of people are following the tos, but that's not enough for CP's and still wants people silenced?

2019-07-04 19:40:02 UTC  

elaborate

2019-07-04 19:40:12 UTC  

what did she say exactly

2019-07-04 19:41:02 UTC  

just read quick overview conquest of bread: it's essentially what I would have advocated from 16-19

2019-07-04 19:41:14 UTC  

lol

2019-07-04 19:41:24 UTC  

based

2019-07-04 19:46:12 UTC  

i don't get mad at anyone for having such views. i just don't understand how they think that it's realistic to have that much cooperation, consensus, consent regarding the ordering of literally everyone's material welfare when we've seen people get pepper sprayed because of disagreement over pronouns

2019-07-04 19:47:04 UTC  

teenaged me had boundless optimism

2019-07-04 19:47:53 UTC  

probably also overly influenced by love of star trek

2019-07-04 19:49:21 UTC  

may not have that anymore in future: star trek discovery is awful

2019-07-04 19:49:34 UTC  

Star Trek shouldn't just instill you with optimism, it tempers that with reality.

2019-07-04 19:52:08 UTC  

i think there's a show bible going back to rodenberry that there cannot be any really significant internal conflicts w/in federation - not very realistic

2019-07-04 19:55:26 UTC  

@eternalanglo the latest video - did you think CP was making a case for one partic POV or trying to lay out different possibilities w/out necessarily saying one is right?

2019-07-04 19:58:26 UTC  

re: pushed by media - not just vox & vice. LA times, NYT, daily beast, TED, and I suspect YT

2019-07-04 20:03:57 UTC  

re: censorship & YT tos - in theory I __could __ think it's fine for yt to enforce tos, but they'd need to make it really clear what their understanding of the rules is. right now it's clear as mud.

2019-07-04 20:17:59 UTC  

@Shadows - I can only think of one instance when signif conflict wasn't something caused by external forces: the maquis and resistance to the cardassian treaty prior to dominion war