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2019-09-25 04:19:19 UTC  

Oh, fancy.

2019-09-25 04:20:56 UTC  

Even still, there is great social mobility within and outside of society

2019-09-25 04:20:58 UTC  

uh, I think that america is highly based around where you start is where you will end up

2019-09-25 04:21:07 UTC  

Lel

2019-09-25 04:21:23 UTC  

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2019-09-25 04:21:25 UTC  

That's a fancy way of pushing determinism

2019-09-25 04:21:26 UTC  

No one will deny that it's much easier to be born affluent than impoverished.

2019-09-25 04:21:36 UTC  

You a recent convert to Calvinism or what

2019-09-25 04:22:08 UTC  

shit, we're falling behind the brits!

2019-09-25 04:22:35 UTC  

That's a nice leftist narrative, but it just isn't true. People move up and down in the US. Sure it's harder to become rich than it is to become poor but it's not like we're in a caste system

2019-09-25 04:23:55 UTC  

Wait, so does your graph actually support the idea that there is more social mobility in the US than in the so-called glorious socialist experiments of the Nordic countries?

2019-09-25 04:24:03 UTC  

What do those axes represent? O_o

2019-09-25 04:24:13 UTC  

Yeah, it's way easier to become poor in socialist countries.

2019-09-25 04:24:25 UTC  

If falling isn't mobility I don't know what is.

2019-09-25 04:24:40 UTC  

The higher the number, the more "elastic" social mobility is?

2019-09-25 04:24:49 UTC  

The fuck does that graph even say?

2019-09-25 04:25:15 UTC  

Cause if I'm reading it right

2019-09-25 04:25:28 UTC  

You just BTFO'd yourself

2019-09-25 04:25:34 UTC  

I'm guessing it shows the correlation between parent and child wealth.

2019-09-25 04:26:04 UTC  

It doesn't say that within the graph, though

2019-09-25 04:26:10 UTC  

Just... >Countries

2019-09-25 04:26:31 UTC  

>intergenerational income elasticity

2019-09-25 04:27:09 UTC  

I'm no social scientist but if English still means English on Marxist utopian, that would mean the difference between parents and children, right?

2019-09-25 04:27:48 UTC  

Did @Fondboy just cite a graph that BTFO'd his point?

2019-09-25 04:27:50 UTC  

I think it means the similarity between parents and children.

2019-09-25 04:27:53 UTC  

I need some context here

2019-09-25 04:28:17 UTC  

But some elucidation on the methodology would be greatly appreciated.

2019-09-25 04:28:43 UTC  

im looking for the study but I would assume it is based on the amount of people that end up with the same wealth as their parents

2019-09-25 04:28:53 UTC  

based on their parents

2019-09-25 04:29:11 UTC  

that is what intergenerational income elasticities means

2019-09-25 04:30:41 UTC  

So what does 0.5 and all those other integers mean?

2019-09-25 04:30:49 UTC  

In relation to social mobility?

2019-09-25 04:31:22 UTC  

That one in two people in the UK end up with the same exact wealth as their parents?

2019-09-25 04:31:30 UTC  

Is that what the 0,5 stands for?

2019-09-25 04:31:39 UTC  

Probably the likelihood of remaining in the same social class aroundabout as the parent.

2019-09-25 04:32:20 UTC  

Probably it means knowing the parent's wealth halves the variance of the child's wealth.

2019-09-25 04:32:43 UTC  

That is to say, it's a measure of how informative knowing the parent's wealth is for guessing the child's wealth.

2019-09-25 04:34:07 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-09-25 04:34:49 UTC  

But even a cursory read of that Wikipedia article admits that there has been growth in social mobility as time has gone by

2019-09-25 04:34:50 UTC  

I used to know the exact formula but I'm drawing a blank.