You wouldn't have to normalize anything.

and what's changing about the populations that it's only 3 points per decade.

Well I'm not saying it's a massive increase either, am I?

Then why would scores not be the same for all tests?

If one person takes a test from 20 years ago and a test from now, would the scores not be the same?

For the way tests are socred since like 1920 in all the major tests?

Yes

Right, but that's not what the data corroborated

... what data?

so basically you think everyone compared to people from 1950 is really 2σ higher in IQ

lul

@Beemann
Re: the Flynn Effect
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3950413/

That study isn't about the flynn affect

This is about whether you can get a higher IQ through training, not whether the Flynn Affect is happening or not.

Two very distinctly different things.

>although whether g shows the Flynn effect is still unsettled (te Nijenhuis and van der Flier, 2013)

so you linked a study that's talking about cognitive training that's citing a study about the Flynn effect being "unsettled" as proof that the Flynn effect is debunked?

Is the Flynn effect just the idea that western nations have steadily increasing IQ or specifically that training causes this?

Did you check that actual citation?

The source doesn't call it unsettled.

Given that epigenetic changes through life are a thing it doesn't seem too terribly ridiculous to believe that training could cause it, and if it's just in general IQ increases it seems like you could probably chalk that up to generations of people actually getting enough (and enough of the right stuff as our knowledge on nutrition increases) to eat. Like how people used to be a foot shorter on average a hundred or two years ago. Your brain takes up a ton of nutrients, makes sense to me that it'd get better too

>epigenetic
Lol.

Do you... not believe in epigenetic changes?

Alright well I got the paper cited

I'd post a screen shot but.. I can't oh I guess I can in pictures

I didn't say that they're *really* higher in IQ, though it depends on what you mean when you say that. Got caught in some stuff while hunting down primary sources, because I dont remember then off the top of my head. Gonna be focused on work for a bit as well but I'll try to remember to come back tot his when I have time

I'm looking at the paper he said shows the flynn affect is bullshit lul https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289613000226

I hate meta-analysis

Yeah one of the sources I found prior that was backing my points was just a meta-analysis, so I was digging into their individual sources to see if I could find the shit I'm trying to verify from prior readings into this

Hitler should have homesteaded.

Hey @Myth is there a debate schedule for all the upcoming debates on the server that you mentioned on the call-in show last week? I'm particularly interested in the Holoconspiracy debate lol

idk about the 19th amendment debate but the holo debate won't be til mid december

Hmmm ok... is there a schedule for all these?

not aware of one

talk to @Myth and @Neon_Flipflop for the 19th one, since they'll be debating it

Hah

@A. Spader
Did Neon ever agree, or did Myth just assert that?

idk

I haven't seen neon here for awhile

Deputy Minister not showing up to work...? Unacceptable.

@A. Spader
You find it funny that you and I agree on like 95% of stuff, but your the only one willing to sack up and debate me?

Or is that just me?