Message from @Yuuzhanvong19

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2019-11-22 20:10:28 UTC  

Because if you read Nietsche, Kant, Wittgenstein, Ayer, or any of the people she criticizes inconsistantly and self-contradictorily you'd know she didn't understand a fuckin' thing of what she read.

2019-11-22 20:10:39 UTC  

How do you know that Objectivism is easier? Even if it is, what difference does it make? Does difficulty automatically denote validity?

2019-11-22 20:10:53 UTC  

Most of the shit she says is outright wrong at best or at worst a strawman of the people she's criticizing.

2019-11-22 20:11:20 UTC  

That's the problem I personally have with anyone who's a **Randian**

2019-11-22 20:11:34 UTC  

It makes most of her reasoning invalid because it's built on a foundation of sand.

2019-11-22 20:11:49 UTC  

It's easier because it simply states Rand's philosophy as essentially axiomatic

2019-11-22 20:12:09 UTC  

And most of her arguments have no real coherent logic that you can use as a system to come to your own ends.

2019-11-22 20:12:15 UTC  

And it's less about the ideology itself and more about self-honesty and accuracy

2019-11-22 20:12:31 UTC  

She's not even "self-honest"

2019-11-22 20:12:56 UTC  

I don't consider Objectivism easier, because it requires effort on my part to hold myself to a certain set of ideals. Ideals that, frankly, are nigh impossible to live up to.

2019-11-22 20:13:15 UTC  

We can always strive to be better.

2019-11-22 20:15:39 UTC  

But you have a ready-made answer

2019-11-22 20:15:54 UTC  

So I had to build my moral code from scratch?

2019-11-22 20:23:46 UTC  

As a nihilist, yes

2019-11-22 21:44:08 UTC  

Why can't everyone just copy someone else's homework when it comes to philosophies?

2019-11-22 21:48:39 UTC  

Cuz that's boring and lame

2019-11-23 00:11:27 UTC  

Oy Legalize, are you Catholic, then?

2019-11-23 01:01:53 UTC  

@Legalize we've had this argument, and decided to part ways. Catholics have to go back.

2019-11-23 01:12:33 UTC  

Is there a branch of Christianity more heretical than the Papacy rn?

2019-11-23 01:17:07 UTC  

Just saying, there's a less heretical side of the schism

2019-11-23 04:11:12 UTC  

Fucking heretical protest-fag bootlickers, right?

2019-11-23 11:44:03 UTC  

I'm frustrated at having argued with an absolute retard about gender dysphoria and treatment of it

2019-11-23 11:44:25 UTC  

Apparently logic and reason has just gone out the fucking window

2019-11-23 11:44:46 UTC  

which side of the issue did you fall on?

2019-11-23 11:47:02 UTC  

That HRT and surgery is not the way to go and there *has* to be a better option.

2019-11-23 11:47:33 UTC  

But no this guy refused to budge on the physiological altering of one's body is wrong

2019-11-23 11:48:33 UTC  

Neither of us had any sources for our arguments but at least part of mine I had an anecdotal experience to cite.

2019-11-23 11:49:14 UTC  

Which pertained to having been prescribed testosterone injections to help with my mental health

2019-11-23 11:50:33 UTC  

Logical reasoning would have one believe that if HRT is a plausible method, why can't the opposite be true?

2019-11-23 11:51:33 UTC  

A supplemental hormone treatment. I do not see why that wouldn't work. Don't work against biology, work with it.

2019-11-23 11:52:03 UTC  

Instead of mutilation and asking if you're pretty.

2019-11-23 11:53:13 UTC  

Now something that's easily obvious but I've never heard bring up is the economics of it

2019-11-23 11:53:28 UTC  

Transitioning is costly. Who benefits financially?

2019-11-23 11:53:39 UTC  

Gee, no wonder it's encouraged.

2019-11-23 11:56:33 UTC  

I know some people that went from being absolutely crazy incoherent messes to getting their lives together once they went on Estrogen.

2019-11-23 11:56:54 UTC  

I don't know what to think, but I know I don't wanna pay for it 🤣

2019-11-23 11:57:45 UTC  

It's one of those issues where I find the "science" isn't even necessary to argue over when it comes to the jump from a mental health condition to off label drugs and permanent surgeries. Arguing over citations and studies only really distracts from the core problems

2019-11-23 11:57:48 UTC  

and the way some pediatricians seem to want to solve everything with medication with their patients, also makes me uncomfortable with supporting the idea that we should make the idea of giving people HRT more mainstream.

2019-11-23 11:58:08 UTC  

For me the "science" is the only issue

2019-11-23 11:58:16 UTC  

Either the treatment works or it doesn't.

2019-11-23 11:58:40 UTC  

To what degree is our medical practice effective and therapeutic.