I can tell you right now that people fleeing from the Chinese government don't want the west to become China

just like people who fled the USSR dont want to bring that shit over here

honestly a lot of groups like that are *more* sympathetic if anything. China really did a number on its own heritage *for the party*

But they wouldn't mind if Asian population surpassed a European population within their own nation. That is also true.

there's a difference between wanting and not minding, but even then a lot of Asians actually actively speak out against that shit

so no, that's not necessarily true either

Lots of Westaboos

White people matter. That's all I'm saying. We habe the same rights to nationhood as any other people.

I think the issue you're looking at is the weakening of cultural values

which is why a lot of socialists think there's no white culture, and honestly come by that opinion rather than being malicious cocksuckers

I mean, there's no monolithic culture, but there's an American culture and a Canadian culture and an English culture etc

I do think in reality there are better cultures though

oh absolutely

I'm not a cultural relativist by any means

I admire governments that put thenpreservatkon of their people above anything else. Lije the Japanese, Polish, Chinese, Congolese etcetera. And America was always good, unifying Europeans upnuntil the 1960s. Post 1970 has brought us today. In 1965 America opened up its borders to non-european people. If that had not happened we would not be having the divisive conversation that we are right now and neither would anybody else. Because we would be unified as a second Europe. The European people would stretch from the European continent across the north American continent and it would be known and it would not be questioned. It is our openness and our liberalism that has brought us to the conversation that we have today.

I wouldnt consider China admirable at all. Also China is multi-ethnic

ok. In what universe is Europe united, or has it ever been united??

and Japan stomped all over its smaller ethnicities, and now people are seeking that cultural heritage again

in none lol

thats "the dream"

If I remember correctly, we went over to Europe twice in the beginning of the last century because none of the white people could get along

I hear what you're saying about China, but the Chinese people are a broad category in the same way that European people are. People from Europe or european people are known to be simply as white people everybody in the world knows that. China is a large country and everybody knows there are many ethnicities within it however all around the world if you are from China we still say you are Chinese it's a general term we all get it we all understand Chinese is the equivalent of white

not to mention the fact that if all Europeans can get along, what purpose do the colonial nations serve?

and no, a lot of people from China do not call themselves Chinese

and hate China

Europe has been a hotbed of landgrabs by different ethnicities of white people for almost as long as the Middle East has

Well again your point is the same as what I'm saying a lot of people in Europe don't like the European Union however we Outsiders will still call them European

European Union is not a nation, it's like saying people are NATO

There are regions of China trying to break free from the whole. Those places are still recognized by the Chinese government *as* Chinese, but if you call those citizens Chinese they will call you ignorant

The European Union might not be a nation but that area and geographic location might be stronger then a nation. The European Union is composed of All European people it has its own military force led by the United States called NATO, each state has its own military force like France has its own England has its own Germany has its own, each has their own Constitution, just like each United States has its own Constitution you could say that the European Union is just as strong if not stronger America as long as they can cooperate with each other and stay unified there's no telling as to say that they are weaker than the United States well that is to say if the United States would let them be as strong as them

European Union is a sham lol

I'm actually really surprised that you're speaking so highly of it when it's the primary driver behind the migrant crisis

The EU is is a fucking joke

the EU is a house of cards, and it has been since it's inception

It was essentially the third German attempt to annex Europe, and they are on the tipping point of it currently

trying to put Greece and Germany on the same currency was a hilariously poor decision that they were warned of well in advance

So if I have you correct Beemann you're from the UK

nope, Leaf

about an hour from the Freedom Border

Well what the hell can you guys say to me that would prove that the EU is not sturdy the thing you is not strong tell me why it's a sham

Brexit comes to mind