Message from @Holo

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2018-09-29 23:52:56 UTC  

I was at X place at Y time with Z people and then A person pushed me into a room with B people and kavanaugh happened to be one of them

2018-09-29 23:53:10 UTC  

^ her story

2018-09-29 23:53:44 UTC  

All persons do not remember incident (and swore on affidavits)

2018-09-29 23:53:54 UTC  

except her

2018-09-29 23:54:23 UTC  

Another thing you can do is the equilivancy test, ask them how they'd treat it if someone accused them of murder 30 something odd years ago and demanded they be put in jail

2018-09-29 23:54:29 UTC  

no evidence

2018-09-29 23:54:34 UTC  

everyone they claim as a witness denies it

2018-09-29 23:54:44 UTC  

and all they have is a bunch of people saying they 'believe' them

2018-09-29 23:54:49 UTC  

do you think it'll hold up in court?

2018-09-29 23:55:09 UTC  

Kavanaugh has a god damn diary for christs sake

2018-09-29 23:55:20 UTC  

This situation as it is is purely hearsay. What that means is that an investigation can’t produce any additional evidence besides verbal testimonies. It is literally Brett’s word against hers.

2018-09-29 23:55:33 UTC  

not true

2018-09-29 23:55:38 UTC  

like i just said, he has a diary

2018-09-29 23:55:42 UTC  

if it can be proved legit

2018-09-29 23:55:45 UTC  

he has an alibi

2018-09-29 23:55:53 UTC  

Well, memories from what, 35 years ago, in a traumatic event aren't very credible. Memories are susceptible to distortion, fading, corruption. Even in therapy sessions when patients are asked to recall events, their imaginations can add things that weren't actually there. Studies also show that trauma can cause people to embellish stories, and add details that didn't happen.

AND the fact that it's a woman makes it even less believable to me personally. They tend to exaggerate shit because they're fundamentally weak and rely on guile, emotion, and the good nature of morons that are very ready to believe her

2018-09-29 23:55:56 UTC  

its actually 4 against one

2018-09-29 23:56:26 UTC  

He's bought into the line "It's just a job interview."
The hard part is, he, like an asshole responded to 3 different comments in multiple parts. So, now I have to juggle all my arguments instead of responding all at once.
I'm almost thinking about just dropping the argument.

And he waited a full 24 hours to respond. And I know he went and did exactly what I'm doing now.

2018-09-29 23:56:39 UTC  

@RoadtoDawn actually i have a different reason for a woman, they tend to be more flowy, so when going to the therapist the therapist could easily ask questions to influence her memories

2018-09-29 23:56:42 UTC  

@Mongo Jongo here's a solid article on how false memories are created: http://staff.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm

2018-09-29 23:56:51 UTC  

whereas a man would probably think more critically of the question

2018-09-29 23:57:22 UTC  

If you told me i had waffles for breakfast 2 months ago i'd wonder if i really did

2018-09-29 23:57:27 UTC  

not assume you are correct

2018-09-29 23:57:38 UTC  

^

2018-09-29 23:57:46 UTC  

What I mean is that an investigation can’t provide any additional information than what we already have.

2018-09-29 23:57:51 UTC  

^

2018-09-29 23:58:00 UTC  

Now, if she said it happened last year

2018-09-29 23:58:08 UTC  

same details though, maybe just maybe

2018-09-29 23:58:12 UTC  

still bullshit

2018-09-29 23:58:18 UTC  

but at least you have a better headstart

2018-09-29 23:58:24 UTC  

but not even a place is impossible

2018-09-29 23:58:24 UTC  

That would be fundamentally different because it would be easier to vet

2018-09-29 23:58:34 UTC  

the United states is it's own fucking continent

2018-09-29 23:58:42 UTC  

most of the states are bigger than other countries

2018-09-29 23:59:05 UTC  

and you're telling the poor buggers in the FBI to search the entire state, assuming she can name one, for 30+ year old evidence

2018-09-29 23:59:15 UTC  

Therapy sessions can create false memories. I think this is what happened with the satanic panic.

2018-09-29 23:59:24 UTC  

This actually reminds me of a section of 12 Rules for Life

2018-09-29 23:59:53 UTC  

What does the person think the FBI is going to do?

2018-09-30 00:00:04 UTC  

Stall the confirmation <:PandaPancky:345073282682191873>

2018-09-30 00:00:30 UTC  

I actually mentioned that to the dude I was debating last night. If this happened 1 year ago, 5 years, maybe as far as 10 years ago, people wouldn't lend themselves much doubt in considering its credibility.

2018-09-30 00:00:51 UTC  

There's only so much 'ambiguity' i can handle before shit becomes bullshit