Message from @ClashOfChampions

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2018-10-30 14:08:52 UTC  

I've never argued with my stepdad re: freedom of speech, or firearms for that matter. We seem to be *mostly* on the same page there

2018-10-30 14:09:37 UTC  

I've tried to point out every time the left has called for violence vs Trump's jokes

2018-10-30 14:09:55 UTC  

You know all the ones Trump claims are violence

2018-10-30 14:11:03 UTC  

Some of the "calls for violence" haven't really been that, same with most of the Trump claims (though there have been some iffy instances for sure)

2018-10-30 14:15:10 UTC  

@Beemann I made the point that ‘people don’t have the right to not be offended.’ He immediately said ‘what if someone approaches you in a public space and starts verbally abusing you?’ (Basically mean words). I said ‘it is protected speech as long as it isn’t incitement to violence’. He freaks out and basically says mean words can cause violence and what about stalking. No joke.

2018-10-30 14:15:36 UTC  

Lol

2018-10-30 14:15:50 UTC  

So to be fair we don't protect harassment in any western nation

2018-10-30 14:16:24 UTC  

There is an expectation that you're not basically following people around, coming up to their door, and constantly yelling at them

2018-10-30 14:16:33 UTC  

But that's never the topic anyway

2018-10-30 14:17:30 UTC  

Right. He first mentioned it as a one time thing, then shifts into the ‘what about muh stalking’.

2018-10-30 14:23:53 UTC  

@Beemann he then told me not to be like Matt Jones. He probably meant Alex Jones. Lol

2018-10-30 14:25:31 UTC  

stalking isnt even speech though lol

2018-10-30 14:25:42 UTC  

you dont even have to talk to someone to stalk them

2018-10-30 14:29:45 UTC  

theres no expressive element

2018-10-30 14:31:18 UTC  

@Beemann I know. He has a tendency to put words in people’s mouths. He tried to make it sound like I was saying stalking was fine. I never said that. I only said that people don’t have the right to not be offended, words aren’t violence, and speech is protected as long as it isn’t inciting violence. I told him he didn’t understand my point (he doesn’t) and he called me a condescending know it all.

2018-10-30 14:32:04 UTC  

my mom does a bit of that too

2018-10-30 14:32:30 UTC  

To be fair, I can be condescending. Lol

2018-10-30 14:32:33 UTC  

wherein my complaints about the feminist movement and their legislative victories are turned into "hating wahmen"

2018-10-30 14:33:29 UTC  

one of the only times I've ever been genuinely angry at my mother, actually, was when she told my sisters I hated women and they took it seriously. Straight up had to sit them down and walk them through it

2018-10-30 14:35:05 UTC  

That’s harsh.

My mom is pretty red pilled. She says that women really don’t do well in management because they are too emotional.

2018-10-30 14:36:21 UTC  

I get that a lot too

2018-10-30 14:36:41 UTC  

Because I'm an Equal Opportunist

2018-10-30 14:37:04 UTC  

I love when you bring that argument up and 9 times out of 10 women react to it emotionally!
When you point it out, you are getting some serious fun!

2018-10-30 14:37:28 UTC  

For me that means don't give anyone regardless of gender free breaks

2018-10-30 14:37:37 UTC  

I want to tell a feminist she’s hysterical to her face. Lol.

2018-10-30 14:38:34 UTC  

My mother doesn’t think that women shouldn’t pursue management positions, just that it’s less likely that they will do as well as men.

2018-10-30 14:38:44 UTC  

Feminists hate Equal Opportunists the most

2018-10-30 14:39:17 UTC  

I get Called a wife Beater because I believe you should never let anyone put your hands on you

2018-10-30 14:39:34 UTC  

What's that British guy who said on television "Sticks and stones may break my bones but there is always something that offends a feminist", and right on cue the woman he was debating started screaming.

2018-10-30 14:39:37 UTC  

Not a man, Not a Woman, Not an Attack Helicopter

2018-10-30 14:52:09 UTC  

I just saw the most cancerous add on YouTube. It was from some organization called ‘knock the vote’

2018-10-30 15:22:47 UTC  

Ok. ‘Knock the vote’ is some far left regressive get lefties to vote crap

2018-10-30 15:28:26 UTC  

Is it the ad with the old people? If so, that's terrible. My grandparents are very concerned about what the country will be like for their grandchildren. Additionally, you can find someone to read anything.

2018-10-30 15:37:01 UTC  

I'm not emotional, screw you wombyn haters

2018-10-30 15:37:04 UTC  

Wait

2018-10-30 15:37:11 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-30 15:45:29 UTC  

Figures

2018-10-30 15:50:32 UTC  

Trump might be making moves to end birth right citizenship: http://archive.is/AspCE (archive of a NYT article from today)
I support this, but think it might not pass a constitutional challenge.

2018-10-30 15:52:20 UTC  

@grant yes. That one. They have another where a black guy calls the cops on an educated white woman and HER CHILDREN not voting.

2018-10-30 15:53:49 UTC  

@grant I don’t know about that. I think birthright citizenship is acceptable. Just put up better border control. I don’t think it’s explicitly a bad thing for America.

2018-10-30 15:55:28 UTC  

Agreed.