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When they became anti free speech or due process (4th) (6th) then the name has changed

I'm sad over the change. The fewer institutions we have in common the more likely violence becomes.

Also, does it feel like the left or SJWs are wearing the ACLU like a skinsuit to anyone else.

Thats how the body snatchers operate, yes

They take over an institution and wear it for its prestige and history, and then dispose of it once its rotten.

I've felt that way for awhile

It’s sad. The aclu has protected freedom of speech in the past.

In terms of colleges, FIRE is the premiere organization right now. What is the one for stuff outside colleges? Who do you guys look to?

What is FIRE?

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https://www.thefire.org/

I believe they're mostly lefties, but they're pretty big on protecting free speech on campus

They take up a lot of cases and put out a list rating schools on free speech

The head of the group co-wrote a book with Johnathan Haidt and has been doing interviews to promote the book. Greg Lukianoff

Ok. Interesting.

I should correct that and say most the people who work for them lean left, not that they are lefties.

Ok. They should try to get conservatives on board too.

They only do college though, so I don't know whos filling the gap everywhere else that the ACLU use to do.

Honestly at this point the loss of free press is the most distressing thing. Before big tech started cracking down I felt like we were finally getting around the stranglehold that big media companies have had on available and legitimate perspectives

Now we just get news coverage (even from Fox) on how taking away some asshole's press privileges at the WH is a breach of the 1A. The hell? Any kid in HS civics class can see what a bogus argument that is.

What are people's thoughts on anti-trust? I feel the tech giants (and payment processors) are colluding to drive out competition so there is a case to be made.

I think it's 100% necessary at this point. I would support troops marching into Google / FB offices and literally commandeering their hardware and arresting all of the employees.

I've done some work on neural networks and adaptive algorithms and the fact that these companies are developing these tools to use against people is basically like letting them develop nuclear weapons in their basement

I'm at the point where I think that all of big tech needs to be forcibly dismantled.

It would kind of suck losing the big social media sites like youtube and such, but it sucks harder to have them running roughshod over free speech and all.

Oh I think the consumer needs to kick them to the curb

I'm not fond of the idea of "these companies are super fucked and have tons of power, let's let the government have dominion over their services"

Twitter and Facebook have never been good. YouTube needs to be replaced by a service with better user funding

Me neither, but at least monopoly busting is a power that the government legitimately has, unlike this internet bill of rights stuff I've seen people talking about.

What are they genuinely going to do to monopoly bust in this case? Force people to use another service? Like even if you fragment some of these companies by service the consumer is still fucked

What people are ultimately talking about is the government having control over private business on the basis that the service that business provides is too popular, not because Google bought out all the search engine mines and not because there's no way to set up another search engine due to Google's fuckery

I do like the idea of other competitors being a legitimate alternative to the current major social platforms. The case has been made that no matter who is allowing us to be platformed, our private information will always be sold/used against us, but I don't think a rising competitor would make the same mistakes YT, FB, and Twitter have made

Protecting the confidentiality and rights of content creators/users isn't just a virtuous goal, the confidence of shareholders, stakeholders, and the public is very important for self-interest as well

https://youtu.be/6YgkIxjYCuI

I'm trying to find this. According a some source at the #himtoo and counter protest. A speaker encouraged men/women to record there sexual encounters so they have proof.....maybe then upload to pornhub so we got like a archive....

20 minutes, almost exactly, on liberals screaming about the senate and how unfair it is

they screaming muh democracy

correction:

muh DIRECT democracy

Central premise of the 'Internet' Bill of Rights needs to be that companies don't have a right to capture infinite amounts of data about users and store that for all time. Users need to pretty much have total control over what info is available to use and be able to force companies to comply with reasonable requests to stop spying.