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2018-11-19 21:30:54 UTC  

I've always been pretty dubious about who quotes these lines and try to understand the premise it comes from and how does it lend or detract from a conversation.

2018-11-19 21:32:06 UTC  

I posted in <#266396659062145025> as good as you will get with that argument

2018-11-19 21:35:50 UTC  

Here's something I've always wanted to ask. Let's say race is 100% socially constructed....then what are the implications of saying that? Does "race" then become something we no longer discuss? Do we discuss it anyways without any scientific guide for direction?

2018-11-19 21:41:58 UTC  

Be sure not to conflate the being of a race with the racial culture. Culture is a societal construct. Black culture and White culture are names we happen to give practices engaged primarily of a certain race. The question was whether or not race was a social construct. Not racial culture

2018-11-19 22:06:44 UTC  

@Chump_or_Champ the problem is that the word race has two meanings. One meaning refers to to biology and the other is a social construct.

2018-11-19 22:10:16 UTC  

I wonder who is responsible for that 🤔

2018-11-19 22:18:53 UTC  

@SteelandSouls I did actually call that out. The discussion was about Rachel Dolezal and her race changing or whatever. And African woman was saying well race is a social construct, so if she says she's black and we can trace her ancestry back to Africa, then fine, she can claim it. I responded "Can she then claim the 'black experience'?" Apparently claiming the black experience is a game changer.

2018-11-19 22:19:12 UTC  

I appreciate the delineation, @SteelandSouls

2018-11-19 22:20:09 UTC  

@Beemann what are you implying? Assume I'm stupid. 😏

2018-11-19 22:21:05 UTC  

That the people who argue that race is a social construct have successfully pushed a definition of race that places it as a social construct, rather than undermine "race" as a central concept

2018-11-19 22:21:05 UTC  

What exactly is the "black experience"?

2018-11-19 22:22:57 UTC  

Waffle House?

2018-11-19 22:23:06 UTC  

^Ha!

2018-11-19 22:23:10 UTC  

Presumably the things that make race a social construct

2018-11-19 22:23:44 UTC  

But I' d be hard-pressed to say that Black culture and the Black experience are the same thing

2018-11-19 22:23:56 UTC  

People are only poor because they are black and they are black because white people say so and that’s why people are poor

2018-11-19 22:24:05 UTC  

Or some other rationale as ridiculous as that

2018-11-19 22:31:51 UTC  

Or rather, this: in that particular brand of black gangsta culture, it’s worse to call the police on a thief, wherein you supposedly would get stitches, than to actually _being_ the thief, which is a source of pride and “street cred”

2018-11-19 22:32:08 UTC  

Word, homie

2018-11-19 22:32:35 UTC  

Until that changes there’s no hope in these people ever being an integral part of civilised society

2018-11-19 22:33:20 UTC  

The same logic applies to the sanctuary city logic

2018-11-19 22:33:32 UTC  

Sanctuary city situation*

2018-11-19 22:33:58 UTC  

The rationale I often hear is that illegals are reluctant to report crimes because of fear of deportation

2018-11-19 22:34:21 UTC  

They’re reluctant to report crimes because the crime leaders hold so much more sway in these areas than the police

2018-11-19 22:34:35 UTC  

And sanctuary cities only further degrade that situation

2018-11-19 22:35:00 UTC  

Also, isn’t immigration a federal policy area?

2018-11-19 22:35:17 UTC  

Why the fuck are individual cities able to assert such authority over that crap?

2018-11-19 22:57:30 UTC  

Probably completely off topic but didn't some archeologists find proof of earlier man coming out of the eastern European/Mediterranean area?

2018-11-19 22:58:07 UTC  

You're correct. That was reported at one point

2018-11-19 22:58:11 UTC  

Could of been some fake news I never had a chance to check sources.

2018-11-19 23:02:08 UTC  

Man that would be hilarious

2018-11-19 23:02:16 UTC  

Everyone spawned from YPIPO

2018-11-20 01:16:59 UTC  

Some people have the patience of saints, was just watching that antifa video

2018-11-20 01:17:12 UTC  

I would not be able to stand there and take all the taunts and insults by them

2018-11-20 01:17:48 UTC  

they are legitimately human debris, land urchins. complete freaks and losers

2018-11-20 01:18:59 UTC  

kudos to Andy Ngo for filming all of it, while getting stuff thrown on him, and being called a traitor to asians for "helping white supremacists"

2018-11-20 01:20:11 UTC  

Which video?

2018-11-20 01:21:00 UTC  

posted on video links just now

2018-11-20 01:21:15 UTC  

the guy filming is just a journalist

2018-11-20 01:24:34 UTC  

yeah, Andy Ngo covers the portland stuff. He's always comes off as so calm.

2018-11-20 01:25:49 UTC  

almost broke my heart when one of the guys said, "I'm a human being" and the antifa guy replies, "No, you're not human"