Message from @Jimmy Boombox

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2018-12-10 11:07:00 UTC  

Not really.

2018-12-10 11:10:20 UTC  

Years of broken promises, raised taxes, decreasing working conditions, etc...

2018-12-10 11:10:48 UTC  

The taxes Macron tried to pass recently are just the last that broke the camel's back

2018-12-10 11:12:58 UTC  

Furthermore they more mostly affecting and impacting the middle and lower classes.

2018-12-10 11:14:59 UTC  

France is one of the most, if not the most, taxed country in the world and people end up having to give away more than half of their monthly salary. People can't save anything and many end up in the red way before the month's end.
Upper classes on the other hand can benefit from tax exemptions and also earn enough to either save and/or place their assets abroad in the so called "fiscal paradises".

2018-12-10 11:15:29 UTC  

The YJ movement is not about "free stuff" or "self determination".

2018-12-10 11:15:57 UTC  

One of the early claims for riots of the Maillot Jaunes was not necessarily the tax hikes on fuel but that minimum wage didn't rise accordingly!

2018-12-10 11:16:17 UTC  

Idk mate

2018-12-10 11:16:36 UTC  

There was a photo posted earlier purportedly being the official demand of the yellow vests

2018-12-10 11:16:54 UTC  

If those were their actual demands I don’t see any real good coming from things

2018-12-10 11:17:34 UTC  

Because it was a weird mix of pls baby me daddy government and environmentalist claptrap

2018-12-10 11:17:43 UTC  

You can't keep adding taxes upon taxes without raising the minimum wage.

2018-12-10 11:17:50 UTC  

The French love government intervention, all of their protests show that. It's always about more higher minimum wages less working hours etc.

2018-12-10 11:18:04 UTC  

The only sensible demand I could understand was the one concerning migrants

2018-12-10 11:18:10 UTC  

But even then it was more of the same

2018-12-10 11:18:25 UTC  

Let’s put more and more laws when current ones already aren’t being enforced

2018-12-10 11:18:46 UTC  

@Jimmy Boombox My point is the French don't want freedom, they want the government to be their daddy that looks after them in all aspects of their lives. Be that taxes or wages.

2018-12-10 11:19:02 UTC  

General protest are either organized or backed by political figures, partys or unions.
This is not the case with the Gilets Jaunes.

2018-12-10 11:19:38 UTC  

And the Gilet Jaune movement has nothing to do, and cannot be compared, with previous movements.

2018-12-10 11:20:14 UTC  

Welp

2018-12-10 11:20:23 UTC  

Sure, recently other movements joined in. But the YJ movement is mostly unaffiliated.

2018-12-10 11:20:33 UTC  

We’ll see eh

2018-12-10 11:20:45 UTC  

I just hope to hell those demands weren’t what they actually want

2018-12-10 11:20:51 UTC  

Just because we don't see who's behind it atm doesn't mean this is necessarily a grass roots movement.

2018-12-10 11:20:57 UTC  

Otherwise this is gonna turn into occupy Wall Street all over again

2018-12-10 11:21:35 UTC  

@Euro looking for a green card Well, sorry for giving a French perspective to a French movement. 😄

2018-12-10 11:22:26 UTC  

There are legitimate riot companies in France. Organisations that have rioters on demand sending their muscle wherever it is needed. Not saying that is the case here, but the incentive would be there.

2018-12-10 11:22:48 UTC  

What do you reckon about those demands though?

2018-12-10 11:22:59 UTC  

If you are French, that doesn't necessarily make your perspective the French perspective!

2018-12-10 11:23:04 UTC  

Sound like what they’ve been asking for or made up?

2018-12-10 11:23:19 UTC  

@Deleted User Do you have a link to those demands?

2018-12-10 11:23:39 UTC  

I’ll repost them in pictures

2018-12-10 11:26:43 UTC  

There cannot be a list of demands, simply because there are not leaders.
Several lists have been made, but none are legally recognizable.

2018-12-10 11:27:19 UTC  

What do you mean by legally recognisable?

2018-12-10 11:29:47 UTC  

Because though united, the YJ is not structured. There are no leaders, there is approved chartes, or list of demands.

2018-12-10 11:30:08 UTC  

it is not legally recognizable either.

2018-12-10 11:30:15 UTC  

Just a list of demands.

2018-12-10 11:31:39 UTC  

But it does not represent anybody in the sense that nobody has been consulted to make it. There hasn't been any debate, discussion, referendum or anything.
For all we know it could very well be a group of 10 dudes who made it over the course of two or three days.

2018-12-10 11:32:09 UTC  

Mmmm

2018-12-10 11:32:14 UTC  

Fair enough