Message from @Lord Zedd

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2019-03-15 05:41:32 UTC  

Oh, so raping children is wrong?

2019-03-15 05:41:35 UTC  

No it wasnt acceptable to him. He knew that killing people is wrong. He put his political beliefs above his morality. You are retarded

2019-03-15 05:41:47 UTC  

in my subjective point of view yes its wrong.

2019-03-15 05:42:13 UTC  

It's objectively wrong.

2019-03-15 05:42:31 UTC  

no its not

2019-03-15 05:42:34 UTC  

ur dum

2019-03-15 05:42:58 UTC  

If he thought that killing people was morally acceptable, then there would be no reason for him to kill people, if he truly thought that it was completely okay.

2019-03-15 05:43:13 UTC  

many people in islamic nations believe that throwing fags off roofs is ok. i dont believe its ok. that is a subjective point of view.

2019-03-15 05:44:20 UTC  

lying is viewed as immoral yet people do it anyway

2019-03-15 05:44:20 UTC  

No, they believe that their religion justifies it, not that it's morally acceptable. They know what they are doing is wrong, they simply believe that their religion commands it

2019-03-15 05:44:28 UTC  

So If someone else wants to rape a child you wont stop them

2019-03-15 05:44:45 UTC  

they put their own needs or wants above their morality

2019-03-15 05:44:59 UTC  

or beliefs

2019-03-15 05:45:11 UTC  

they are just weak and self centred people

2019-03-15 05:45:22 UTC  

Morality isnt a belief. It's human nature

2019-03-15 05:46:34 UTC  

these are all false equivalencies. not all people share the same moral compass. different people have different points of view. its not wrong to acknowledge that. im sure i have different morals than many of you.

2019-03-15 05:47:03 UTC  

morality isnt human nature you brainlet.

2019-03-15 05:47:10 UTC  

people having different points of view does not disprove objectivity of a thing

2019-03-15 05:47:24 UTC  

but morality isnt objective you fucking idiots.

2019-03-15 05:47:29 UTC  

there are people who believe that certain kinds of tech are legit magic

2019-03-15 05:47:31 UTC  

is there any country with laws where murder isn't illegal?

2019-03-15 05:47:36 UTC  

Yes it is objective

2019-03-15 05:47:40 UTC  

>hurr durr it isnt human nature
>suddenly almost every single nation outlaws murder, rape, slavery, etc.
>Not human nature

2019-03-15 05:47:53 UTC  

MORALITY ~principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

2019-03-15 05:48:00 UTC  

it's been universally decided by all societies all communities that murder is immoral, it's why it's a crime

2019-03-15 05:48:21 UTC  

Morality is objective. Whether or not you know those moral values is the only subjective thing

2019-03-15 05:48:23 UTC  

hmm it's starting to thunder here I might have to log soon

2019-03-15 05:48:40 UTC  

Morality can only function as an absolute

2019-03-15 05:48:46 UTC  

it hasn't been universally decided because many people think killing certain people is ok.

2019-03-15 05:48:53 UTC  

lol

2019-03-15 05:49:05 UTC  

So if all your friends jumped off a cliff would you?

2019-03-15 05:49:18 UTC  

no, he's not arguing for morality by majority

2019-03-15 05:49:20 UTC  

fuck all my friends are dead so probably.

2019-03-15 05:49:25 UTC  

no they think they're justified in doing so, at ignoring the morality because of their beliefs

2019-03-15 05:49:37 UTC  

do they think murdering anyone is ok or just a certain person or group?

2019-03-15 05:49:45 UTC  

he's just not making any case for subjective morality over objective, but that's also because nobody is stating an actual concrete position

2019-03-15 05:49:57 UTC  

@Beemann That's ultimately what subjective morality leads to: might make right

2019-03-15 05:50:06 UTC  

slavery used to be moral now its not. morality changes.

2019-03-15 05:50:12 UTC  

it was never moral

2019-03-15 05:50:15 UTC  

no. the times change.

2019-03-15 05:50:20 UTC  

but it was practiced