your drive is to survive long enough to procreate and help ensure your offspring do the same. To that end, you want a habitat that works for you and your offspring

Unless you're religious, there is no other explanation for morality existing. It comes from biology. We evolved to be a sociable species.

to get this you compromise. The collective security pact then abhors wanton murder

because that lowers the stability and safety of the individual components

would any of you ever be soldiers? ever fight?

We doing some fight club shit?

I suspect I'll have to do so, if things continue to deteriorate

I'm down

Maybe, but id have to get into shape

Where we meeting?

sorry can't tell you

you know rule 1

and rule 2

Cant not tell me 😉

Those rules were made to be broken. Ala anarchy

fighting implies killing. you said that murder is wrong but you are willing to fight. a person could now view you as immoral. make sense?

they would be wrong, but they could say that yes

I mean..I've stabbed someone before.. so sure

so if somebody disagrees with you they are wrong?

self defense, and defense of others, is a moral imperative

what if you only intend to defend your personal beliefs?

The reason that different nations fight is because of different moral structures, not because they believe that fighting is morally acceptable, but because they believe that their structure of morality is superior to the other nation.

if a tribe cannot defend itself, it is taken over or eliminated

what do you mean by "defend my personal beliefs"?

as in my nation is being attacked by another nation, with the intent of taking it over?

or preservation of political or religious structures?

Defending morality is literally a moral value. Societies that dont are swiftly taken over by those who do defend their moral structure

Resources, it's all about resources. Preservation of ones own, and acquisition of others.

adding structure to the word moral does not change the meaning of what you are saying.

Yes it does

LMAO

A moral structure is how society organizes, manages, and uses moral values

a moral structure is just a fuckins structure of morals. still subjective you mongrel.

anyway im going to bed soon. I can be bothered with this

lol mongrel?

do you know the individual definition of words you brainlet?

you wanna fight? 😃

Its like he ignored what I just said

you're just repeating your assertion. Also what do you mean by "what if you only intend to defend your personal beliefs"? Scenario-wise I mean

im down bro

so differens strucures have different values. therefore different morals