Message from @Beemann

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2019-05-29 13:42:17 UTC  

sure but we're also talking about people who want universal healthcare

2019-05-29 13:42:24 UTC  

those two could arguably go hand in hand even

2019-05-29 13:42:58 UTC  

The environment issues is partially narrative control though, republicans need to come out and say we are sciencing our way through it, here is the research investments we are making...

2019-05-29 13:43:20 UTC  

right but people want those regulations because they dont trust corporations

2019-05-29 13:43:38 UTC  

which, to be fair to them, is generally a good plan

2019-05-29 13:43:39 UTC  

But is universal healthcare reason #1 of 2 for why people vote, i don't think so

2019-05-29 13:43:43 UTC  

they just need to apply it consistently

2019-05-29 13:44:08 UTC  

There are lots of people who are pro universal healthcare who vote republican

2019-05-29 13:44:58 UTC  

And republicans are obviously not the party of free market capitalism

2019-05-29 13:45:16 UTC  

as of 2018, gallup polling put healthcare as a top3 issue, along with economy and immigration

2019-05-29 13:45:36 UTC  

way wahmen are treated is 4th lol

2019-05-29 13:46:24 UTC  

Healthcare is in top 3 or universal healthcare?

2019-05-29 13:46:29 UTC  

also right now you're getting a partisan backlash to bad orange man XD

2019-05-29 13:46:59 UTC  

healthcare in general. Given that the Dems have made healthcare a priority, whether or not you agree with their solution, shouldnt this have an effect on their numbers/support base?

2019-05-29 13:47:01 UTC  

Orange man bad is also narrative control

2019-05-29 13:47:01 UTC  

We can all agree repeal the 19tho so wts It matter beemann ;)

2019-05-29 13:47:14 UTC  

šŸ‘Œ šŸ‘Œ

2019-05-29 13:47:23 UTC  

a portion of it is narrative control

2019-05-29 13:47:47 UTC  

but even most trump supporters I hear from are not super impressed with many of trump's decisions

2019-05-29 13:47:58 UTC  

Republicans are for healthcare cost control, but noone hears how they are going about it

2019-05-29 13:48:57 UTC  

I think a lot of people just want gibs, not budget balancing tbh. I suspect also that balancing the budget is a losing battle. Every country runs on debt now

2019-05-29 13:50:11 UTC  

China and Japan own a crap ton of our debt.

2019-05-29 13:50:33 UTC  

Yup

2019-05-29 13:51:12 UTC  

China is also starting to own a crap ton of your stock market

2019-05-29 13:51:19 UTC  

Have fun with that one

2019-05-29 13:51:33 UTC  

Right.

2019-05-29 13:51:40 UTC  

Nobody cares though

2019-05-29 13:51:56 UTC  

Cause noone has the balls in government to say "fixing your life is not my job" i.e. check the 10th ammendent for that

2019-05-29 13:52:03 UTC  

They will once reality sets in :^)

2019-05-29 13:52:21 UTC  

They won't do it because it will 100% lose them those votes

2019-05-29 13:52:31 UTC  

I’d argue that most health problems are caused by lifestyle choices

2019-05-29 13:52:42 UTC  

Yeah I think that's undeniable

2019-05-29 13:52:58 UTC  

Thats the problem with people replacing god with politics

2019-05-29 13:53:42 UTC  

Government research should go into gene therapy and it would solve another portion.

2019-05-29 13:54:01 UTC  

I think most health issues result from logevity being extended

2019-05-29 13:54:03 UTC  

A good chunk of the people advocating universal healthcare are also the sort to hate it when there's social or political pressure to conform to standards
I don't think that's the case on either front re: politics+god

2019-05-29 13:54:17 UTC  

They can keep you going forever

2019-05-29 13:57:39 UTC  

If government made itself less complex to understand, we would better communicate the tradeoffs in the "free" benifits. Also federalism would resolve a lot of it

2019-05-29 13:59:25 UTC  

I think that's gonna be a hard sell after Alabama and Georgia

2019-05-29 14:14:25 UTC  

Well, the leftists can just abort themselves from Alabama and Georgia then. Lol

2019-05-29 14:19:02 UTC  

The issue is pushing federalism after a major incident a sizeable chunk of the dem base doesn't support