Message from @Beemann

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2019-08-22 13:43:19 UTC  

Uprooting them in every major city

2019-08-22 13:43:52 UTC  

What I'm really criticizing is the reactionary mindset of resisting attacks but not constantly pushing for advancement of one's own goals. This is a major asymmetry in Left vs Right tactics.

2019-08-22 13:44:00 UTC  

oh sure

2019-08-22 13:44:12 UTC  

but that also depends on your goals

2019-08-22 13:44:18 UTC  

I think that might be a larger issue

2019-08-22 13:45:12 UTC  

Leftists are fucking tireless and they have huge swathes of professional agitators going around stirring up problems to complain about constantly.

2019-08-22 13:45:34 UTC  

Right wingers seem to just shut up and go back to work whenever they win a tiny battle.

2019-08-22 13:45:38 UTC  

well and now it looks like not all of the agitators are necessarily theirs

2019-08-22 13:45:59 UTC  

the claim has been made that some of the recent vidya freakouts have been started by anons for fun

2019-08-22 13:46:26 UTC  

Vidya freakouts?

2019-08-22 13:46:36 UTC  

I don't know what we are talking about.

2019-08-22 13:46:37 UTC  

Ion Fury and CTR reboot

2019-08-22 13:47:31 UTC  

Ion Fury had the Ogay bottle, a "fagbag" texture outside of the map, CTR had a resetera thread in which someone claimed that one of the characters had a darker colour scheme called watermelon

2019-08-22 13:47:43 UTC  

both had big resetera/twatter freakouts

2019-08-22 13:47:58 UTC  

I wouldnt be surprised if there were non vidya freakouts with a similar, insincere origin

2019-08-22 13:48:32 UTC  

So shitposting that just fuels the Leftist propaganda machine? How is that productive?

2019-08-22 13:48:41 UTC  

What goal does it achieve?

2019-08-22 13:48:55 UTC  

chaos, amusement

2019-08-22 13:49:08 UTC  

we're talking about some random fuck on the 'net

2019-08-22 13:49:33 UTC  

at best you could make the "4d chess" argument that this falls into the "ban fathers day" and "free bleeding" ops

2019-08-22 13:49:59 UTC  

but it was probably just to shitstir in this instance

2019-08-22 13:50:05 UTC  

Yeah I don't think kekistan is helping anything.

2019-08-22 13:50:20 UTC  

I am not pro-chaos.

2019-08-22 13:50:43 UTC  

oh it was never going to be anything but chaos

2019-08-22 13:51:13 UTC  

there's a level of inherent contrarianism and mischief making there that I think people overlook when it happens to work out for them

2019-08-22 13:51:59 UTC  

Well it's never going to be anything but chaos if 'we' can't even coalesce around some sort of positive vision, sure.

2019-08-22 13:52:16 UTC  

sure, but that's not going to happen from "4chan"

2019-08-22 13:52:35 UTC  

You are the one that brought up chans and ops

2019-08-22 13:52:53 UTC  

right, because it's probable that some % of this isnt the usual crowd

2019-08-22 13:52:58 UTC  

but third party shit-stirrers

2019-08-22 13:53:08 UTC  

it's a factor to keep in mind

2019-08-22 13:54:29 UTC  

Sure. But the problem I'm trying to think about is that the Left agitates with a sort of hive mind, pushing in more or less the same direction, constantly, like a swarm of ants.

2019-08-22 13:55:17 UTC  

They have directives that come down from academia and they act out those directives with religious fervor.

2019-08-22 13:55:24 UTC  

I think that's honestly a symptom of the overuse of mass social media platforms, the breakdown of reliable media, and the overabundance of information

2019-08-22 13:56:17 UTC  

there are definitely people who will fall into lockstep regardless, but the method by which they find new crusades, and the method by which they recruit new members, cant really be attributed (at least not entirely) to academia

2019-08-22 13:57:09 UTC  

No, academia provides the jargon, the arguments and the pseudo-moral justification for the crusades. The lower tiers do the actual crusading.

2019-08-22 13:57:41 UTC  

But every single new shitty idea they campaign on comes right out of some XXXXX-studies PhD

2019-08-22 13:58:08 UTC  

usually by the time you see it it's been warped considerably by a game of internet-telephone, but sure

2019-08-22 17:12:37 UTC  

@Green Syndicalism I was asking because I got an email from corporate saying to support congress allowing it to stay opperating

2019-08-22 17:13:27 UTC  

What happened with the stream last night? I was waiting at 8 and then it shutdown.

2019-08-22 17:15:20 UTC  

Which stream?