We've been conditioned by watching women and babies die and wanting to stop it

LOL "guys do research and educate yourself"

no one is arguing that its necessary, they are arguing that's its safer

It's absolutely safer

yup

if youre cool with a higher infant mortality rate within your family, then go right ahead bro.

If you want to have kids at home, have it. But you're unnecessarily risking the life of your wife and child, for no reason at all

plus an increased risk of being a single father

LawlBertarians

Its not strictly necessary for me to drive with a seatbelt but I don't wanna die in an accident so I wear one

Owen Benjamin and VoxDay don't think the GrOYpers are organic

This kind is just an outgrowth of not appreciating how good we have it.

When a hospital indices labor on an otherwise healthy woman just to free up the hospital bed, then had to perform a c-section because they broke her water, that isn't safer. Hospitals do a lot of procedures just in case that aren't necessary which can precipitate more complications.

Every procedure has risks too.

We're so used to child birth being safe and easy we think it natually is, and don't appreciate the work and time and medical effort it took to get us here

citation need on hospitals inducing labor simply to free up the bed

yea straight up calling bullshit on that one too

The citation is his head, which is the only place that happens

they dont normally opt for a c-section

sounds like something they'd do here in Leafistan or Britbongabad

just for the hell of it

The women that are in labor for 30 hours would fucking kill to have that happen

Really depends on the hospital

some are very much pushing the C-Section because they believe it's better

show us

Just know the hospital you're going to

https://khn.org/news/californiawatch-profit-hospitals-performing-more-c-sections/

There's all kinds of information if you just google around

I've also seen Physicians say it's because woman prefer it and it's fine since they've got excellent fascilities and excellent surgeons

im studying for finals lol im not gonna google shit that someone else can

Yes most C sections are the women's decision

This case, it's obviously about money

Hospitals in Cali get caught doing shit like this all the time though

And hospitals go with it because it's money

like ordering x-rays

never doing them, then charging the patient

But they aren't tying them down and forcing it

If they break your water to move things along, you have 4 hours, then they have to c-section or risk infection. If after a certain number of hours you aren't dialating enough they will either send you home or dose your and break your water.

But even if they are.....it's still safer than shitting out a kid in your fucking living room

They won't just let you sit there all day.

Again, still safer than you giving birth at home